Permalink Reply by Kate Angell Schooler on I've never had a problem with other religions. They can believe what they want, just so long as they don't try to shove it down my throte. I don't demonize the Catholic and Christian faiths.
Didn't know about the Buddist burning thing, but if you have a link I'd like to check it out, and know what's going on in the world.
I know there are plenty of Pagans that don't accept Cristians right to be, but I am not one of those, simple as that.
Permalink Reply by Vigdisdotter on I wouldn't pay attention to an apology that isn't relevant to me. And since I live now, not 600 year ago or whatever, the apology would be meaningless to me.
Permalink Reply by Sid Diver on No - I do not see how apologising for something that happend generations ago will make anything better for those alive today. Acceptance and toleration is more important than token apologies.
But the post misrepresents the position;
"2000 years" - Christians were frequently persecuted by the pagan Roman Empire, until the Emperor Constantine passed a law allowing religious toleration in 313 AD. The first anti-pagan laws were not passed until the 350s, but there was a renewel of toleration in the 360s and '70s. It wasn't really until the reign of Theodosius in the late 380s that an all out intolerance was declared on paganism. Even then this was confined only to the increasingly diminishing Roman Empire, and it wasn't really until the 8th or 9th Century that you can say widespread persecution was occurring in multiple localities and became the automatic response to non-Christian believers (and non-orthodox Christians - many Christians were killed for being heretics). It is also true that the earlier persecution was via destroying temples and pillaging or appropriating the wealth of pagans, not 'murdering' them. In fact the church started killing heretics way before it started killing pagans, the first heretic being killed was the Bishop Priscillian in 385 AD.
"The Catholic Church has waged war on pagans" - The persecution the Church did undertake was frequently hand-in-hand with a political nation that used religion as an excuse to eliminate opposition, and was not necessarily a persecution the Church could have undertaken under its own steam. It was not until well into the Middle Ages that the Catholic Church had the clout to establish its own courts, and even then it was more interested in heretics, than pagans.
And why pick on the Catholic Church? What about Protestants and other Christian denominations. Read the Old Testamant and time and again you'll see the Jewish nation destroying pagan worshippers - so should we ask Israel to apologise? And what about Moslems? The Roman Empire and Greek Nations also persecuted any religious belief that didn't submit to their state philosophies. The Persian Empires also had intermittent persecutions of non-Zoroastrian worshippers. These are all persecutions based on religious belief.
"The Church should apologise" - I thought John Paul II did back in 2000 when he asked for forgiveness, saying "Christians have often denied the Gospel; yielding to a mentality of power, they have violated the rights of ethnic groups and peoples, and shown contempt for their cultures and religious traditions"
"The US Congress has apologised to black people for slavery" - This is politics and seeking election votes. Pagans have no input on the Catholic Church power, structure and finance. Why would the Church feel the need to apologise?
Permalink Reply by Victor Night on No, because for the most part they haven't done anything to Pagans at all.
Permalink Reply by Jo on Should they apologize to the thousands of Anabaptist Christians they burned at the stake during the reformation, and the Jews they slaughtered during in the Pograms in the, brain fart...when they tried to take Jerusalem from the muslims , and the Nazis apologize to the Catholics, Jews, Christians they slaughtered during WW 2, or the Pagan religions to the slaughtered innocents to sacrifice them to their gods, the Protestants who burned the Anabaptist's at the stake, the muslims who murder Christians and Jews by beheading, burning, etc every single day, the Romans who murdered Christians by throwing them into the ring with wild beats and were torn apart while alive. The list is endless.
No one group can say hey we are the only ones who received injustice at the hands of others.
In our time the Jews and Christians are actively being persecuted, killed, tortured, imprisoned, demonized simply for their beliefs. Who should apologize for that?
Everyone should apologize to everyone. And everyone should apologize for not taking action against muslims and the secular factions in our country for not stopping the persecution of Christians and Jews over seas and in the good old USA.
Permalink Reply by Party Pooper on Well if you look at it from a broader perspective, the catholic church along with many other large main stream faiths have many reasons to apologize to one another. However, giving an official public apology won't be enough for some folks.
Human seem to like to kill one another be it in the name of faith or whatever their excuse. Religion just isn't a good thing when it's in the wrong hands.
Permalink Reply by Dave Pellani on We can just cut to the chase, and have the Catholic Church apologize for their pathetic existence.
Permalink Reply by Dave Pellani on If anything solves nothing, it would be our friends over there at the local catholic church. Of course it solves nothing, it's a hypothetical issue to begin with.
We're all guilty of that.
not me......
Permalink Reply by Party Pooper on Wow...you are really angry and have it in for Catholics.
Permalink Reply by Dave Pellani on Who me?? You've got to be kidding! Do you want me to make it sound sweet, drizzle on some sugar and honey?
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