Satanic Reflections with John Allee
Rev. John Allee reads from the Satanic Bible.
Title: Satanic Reflections with Rev. Allee
Comments: Did you ever tune into late night television and watch those sermons against a backdrop of beautiful scenes from nature? In this clip, the Dark Pope of Satan gives his devilishly inspired rendition.
John Allee founded the 'First Church of Satan' not to be confused with 'The Church of Satan'.
http://alleeshadowtradition.com/sbn63.html
You have to appreciate the comedic value of this clip. John is a trip.
Title: Satanic Reflections with Rev. Allee
Comments: Did you ever tune into late night television and watch those sermons against a backdrop of beautiful scenes from nature? In this clip, the Dark Pope of Satan gives his devilishly inspired rendition.
John Allee founded the 'First Church of Satan' not to be confused with 'The Church of Satan'.
http://alleeshadowtradition.com/sbn63.html
You have to appreciate the comedic value of this clip. John is a trip.
Tags: inspirationals., satanism
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Permalink Reply by Pavlor on -
Does he have any followers yet? And no, I didn't check the link: I thought I was being charitable by listening to the YouTube clip to be honest *lol*
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Permalink Reply by John Allee on -
Excuse me, Pavlor... "followers?" "charitable?" My, your choice of vocabulary is interesting, indeed. It tells me much about you.
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Permalink Reply by Pavlor on
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And hello to you, too, John! *lol*
Yes, "followers" - people who enjoy your philosophies which give them insight in to their own lives. Doesn't necessarily have to be a negative meaning attached to it. "Charitable": my sense of humour. Don't take me too seriously, John. It'll waste your time and mine *lol*
I'm not sure a wee two-sentence quip can tell you anything aout me, but you go with it!
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Permalink Reply by John Allee on
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The term "followers" is anathema to Lillee and I, since we believe so strongly in individual sovereignty - something most Satanists pay lip service to, but rarely ever practice.
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Permalink Reply by Pavlor on
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Yes, I understand, although I think people can "follow" many traditions. I'd say I'm follower of Daemonolatry, but yes, it does sound like I have 'given up' all claims on individual thought etc. I suppose semantics is like anything else - it all depends on how lax/rigid (and anything in between) you are as a person.
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Permalink Reply by SIN on -
I'm not really sure what the status of his church is. I found the clip to be amusing, like one of those inspirational messages on the Bible Network, or Sunday Morning tv.
John and I have made friends recently, though I've heard a fair bit about him through the gossip channels. I like to decide for myself who is and isn't a crack pot.
I did take some time to peruse his website. He's got a new book coming out, that seems to gain its inspiration from Hermetics and Middle Pillar philosophy. He's been spamming some of the Satanic groups with excerpts from his book. We've had some great conversations, and we see eye to eye on a lot of topics. He seems pleasant, educated and looking for a more 'spiritual' aspect in his life.
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Permalink Reply by Pavlor on
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"How can one become more spiritual by descending to base animal reactionary logic"?
I understand this, but my question would be the "spiritual" aspect. I thought spirtual matters were in opposition with (Modern) Satanic philosophy. If he draws from Hermetic principles, however, I do understand polarity and all that.
SIN: How much of Hermetics is in Modern Satanism? In Traditional Daemonolatry it's a fundament, although this is not the case for most "Modern" Daemonolators from what I understand. I'm a bit lost with the whole Pagan aspect of it as well as most Pagans on this board don't seem to know much about it, and you're the first to have mentioned it (as I recall). It's quite amazing that no one on that "The New Earth" thread talking about The Secret has not joined the dots (The Kybalion).
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Permalink Reply by Pavlor on
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You see, that's another thing, I've noticed Wicca and Wiccan being used as different/separate to Pagan, as in whether they are a Witch, Wiccan or Pagan. I can't remember where I got this from but it is splashed about the place here and there. *AND* most people on here say they aren't Wiccan. I am confused. Should I go by what they write or what their profile says? Bit *DaZeD* *lol*
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Permalink Reply by SIN on
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I've noticed that some people use Wicca to specify what type of Pagan they are, and its seems to be the most common 'type' of Pagan. Perhaps its because Pagan encompasses so many different beliefs, and they want to be clear that they don't practice things that might be considered 'left'.
One thing that stands out in my mind is the using the word 'Pagan' to make a statement that this term means selflessness vs. selfishness. That all Pagans are healers, helpers, and give rather than take. What are your thoughts about that Pavlor?
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Permalink Reply by Pavlor on
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Yes, it does seem to be that Wicca has become its own entity. Maybe it's because it's claimed to be the most organised of all so-called Pagan religions and can then stand alone without the Pagan label attached. It may also be due to its relatively high profile status of the Pagan religions. I don't really know about it to comment, although I am reading about it at the moment, so once I feel comfortable expounding (pontificating? *lol*), I will most likely let everyone know =)
One thing that stands out in my mind is the using the word 'Pagan' to make a statement that this term means selflessness vs. selfishness. That all Pagans are healers, helpers, and give rather than take. What are your thoughts about that Pavlor?
Complete bollocks, pardon my French. I think people who believe "Pagan" to mean all those things are simply riding on the wave of NewAgeism and NeoPaganism. It's like the *fluffy* delights about the Celts I see splashed about the board. Any Westerner who claims to be Pagan in this day and age is kidding themselves, I believe, as the total social paradigm shift in religious activity no longer focuses on survival, which was the whole raison d'être for religious praxes in paleolithic times.
Casting spells, healing, helping does not a Pagan make if considering the *OLD* sense of the word. To me, this is the true meaning of "fluffy bunny" *lol* This, to me is NeoPaganism due to the aforementioned total epistemelogical paradigm shift. Some state that some beliefs/paths have never died out, but society has changed, and I believe this is conveniently ignored.
I thought I'd stir the board up a bit *lol*
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Permalink Reply by SIN on
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"Casting spells, healing, helping does not a Pagan make if considering the *OLD* sense of the word. To me, this is the true meaning of "fluffy bunny" *lol* This, to me is NeoPaganism due to the aforementioned total epistemelogical paradigm shift. Some state that some beliefs/paths have never died out, but society has changed, and I believe this is conveniently ignored."
I couldn't agree more.
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