Satanic Reflections with John Allee

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Permalink Reply by SIN on April 17, 2008 at 8:53pm

My, my Mr. Allee - you are taking a quite defensive stance to this topic. While I understand the emotional response to the pedophilia allegations; the rest was not a 'vicious' attack on you personally. You are promoting your book on this site, are you not? I think all of these little tid-bits are an attempt to determine; "Just who is John Allee, what does he represent and what is his organization all about?" I think your reactionary response to this thread, is quite telling.

As for my commentary about 'spam' perhaps you and I would define 'spam' differently . I didn't intend for it to be derrogatory comment, more 'informational'. A comparison of the number times you and I post on a group is irrelevant. You have posted topics which dovetail into your book, you mentioned this on one of the threads on Myspace. So, what's the offense here?

Permalink Reply by John Allee on April 17, 2008 at 9:17pm

Of course my philosophy dovetails into my book. Would you rather I contradict myself? And yes, I do advertise our book on this website. If I wind up breaking even financially to advertise the book in various venues, it will all have been worth it. I feel the message of the book is that important.

Also, I do see the word, "spam" as derogatory - I sincerely do.

The video I released today really shows what we're all about -- and there's more to come.

Permalink Reply by SIN on April 17, 2008 at 9:24pm

Again, you are getting defensive when none should be taken. Contradictions are not even in question here, my point was that people are genuinely interested in your philosophy; and all that entails.

I understand you take this word as a derogatory statement, point taken. It was not intended in that manner.

I had planned on picking up a copy of your book, as I am among the genuinely interested.

Permalink Reply by Pavlor on April 18, 2008 at 12:29am

Isn't "spam" like cold-calling? That's how I view it. If I'm sitting at home and someone cold-calls me advertising something, I'll listen and then I might just buy.

For me it *does* have a derogatory feeling attached to it, but I believe that's to do with how people have been using it over the years.

Permalink Reply by John Allee on April 18, 2008 at 7:23am

Like Renfield said in Dracula, "Words! Words! Words!"

It's sad, how we attach emotional feelings to them in an a political way - trying to get people stirred or riled up.

"Spam!" "Pedophile!" "Internal Revenue Service!"

Permalink Reply by SIN on April 18, 2008 at 8:29am

Going back to your philosophy John, I believe its a matter of perception and personal reality.

The use of the word 'Spam' in your sphere or reality was taken as a derogatory statement. The use of the word 'Spam' in my sphere of reality, was meant to mean 'informational'.

The word 'Pedophile' immediately stirred your emotions, this is apparent in your communication here. Ken simply said, he had heard that you 'support' pedophilia, not that you were a pedophile. I think we each make our own connections. I do agree that some 'words' are used to get a rise out of people; we can't control the actions of others but we can control our re-actions.

If we are to find a balance between goodness and evil; we should behave as gods and not allow others to shit in our garden of eden. How can we do that? Analysis. If you take a step back, and release your emotional ties to these words - what do you see? How could you have reacted in response to these statements and inquiries? Where does the viciousness reside?

Just some things to consider.

Permalink Reply by John Allee on April 18, 2008 at 9:54pm

What it all boils down to is intent.

In the days of the Salem witch hysteria, they would scream, "Only a witch defends a witch!" This would frighten people away from speaking out and defending the accused.

I'm telling you that the same game has been played with me. "Only a pedophile defends a pedophile." That was the divide and conquer strategy used by my enemies to destroy my name and reputation.

I am not as "irrational" or "paranoid" as you think. In fact, I think it best if I just dropped out of this thread - I'll explain later.

Permalink Reply by SIN on April 19, 2008 at 2:12am

Perhaps you should, you are way off topic and not making a whole lot of sense; relative to the discussion.

Permalink Reply by Pavlor on April 19, 2008 at 2:40am

Well, I followed this thread and it was all over the place. I had *NO* interest in whether John was accused of paedophilia or not and just found it odd that it kept coming up time and time again from all parties involved in that conversation topic.

Just plain weird.

"TOS" (toss) means to masturbate in British English and tosser is a perjorative term for someone. Is this also used in the States? *lol* ;)

Permalink Reply by SIN on April 20, 2008 at 8:18am

LOL, that's funny. No, that's not a term I'm familiar with - at least not in that context. Hilarious.

Permalink Reply by SIN on April 18, 2008 at 8:24am

That's how I look at it too, I got some spam to inform me of this website; and I joined.

I see 'Internet Trolling' to be a negative interaction. A troll will come into a topic, cause havoc by posting nonsensical information to take the thread off topic; or post hacking programs to corrupt the thread. I see a spammer as entering a forum, introducing their wares or information to inform the users.

Spam can be seen like telemarketing, some people hate telemarketing while others listen to see if its something they might be interested in.

Permalink Reply by Pavlor on April 18, 2008 at 10:10am

Yes, I agree.

You can eat spam as well, or don't you guys have that over there?

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