Theban Alphabet

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Permalink Reply by Pavlor on May 26, 2008 at 12:54pm

First of all, why do so many people write "Pagans and Wiccans" as if they are two separate things? Like is a Wiccan not a Pagan?

That's my first gripe *lol*

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Permalink Reply by Solitary Amazon on May 26, 2008 at 2:34pm

Wiccans are Pagan. But not all Pagans are Wiccans. Wicca is a branch of Paganism. Thus I was taught.

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Permalink Reply by The Solitaire Brotherhood on May 26, 2008 at 6:54pm

Wiccans are Pagans indeed. Pagan is the top of the umbrella and Wiccans are one of the supports holding it open. You were taught right.

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Permalink Reply by Pavlor on May 27, 2008 at 12:55am

Hang on, if Wiccans are Pagan. But not all Pagans are Wiccans. Wicca is a branch of Paganism then why not just say "Pagans" (if Wiccans are Pagans).

A lot of people here write "Pagans and Wiccans" which I find strange *lol*

Pagans call themselves Pagans, and not all Wiccans call themselves Wiccans

Eh?

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Permalink Reply by The Solitaire Brotherhood on May 27, 2008 at 12:18pm

That is right. I do not understand it either. That is a lot of the people that I have come in contact with. that would be like Christians and Baptists. Baptists are a branch off Christianity, but they do not refer to themselves as Christians, they refer to themselves as Baptists. It is rather confusing, but unfortunately that is the way they decude to label themselves.

Blessed Be,
Orion
The Solitaire Brotherhood

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Permalink Reply by Pavlor on May 27, 2008 at 1:11pm

Baptists are a branch off Christianity, but they do not refer to themselves as Christians, they refer to themselves as Baptists

I don't know any Baptists but I would find it really *ODD* that they don't consider themselves Christians (or call themselves that) if their theology is all about Christ.

Strange...

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Permalink Reply by The Solitaire Brotherhood on May 27, 2008 at 4:39pm

I have met plenty in my life. My grandmother is one of those people. It is strange, but like I said, that is how people want to refer to themselves.

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Permalink Reply by Pavlor on May 27, 2008 at 5:21pm

You have asked your grandmother if she's a Christian and she said no, I am a Baptist? What is being a Baptist then if it isn't a denomination of Christianity? I am really confused. Does your grandmother not see Christ as her central to her beliefs?

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Permalink Reply by The Solitaire Brotherhood on May 26, 2008 at 6:53pm

no. I am not saying them as to seperate indiciduals. I say it like that because not all Pagans call themselves Pagans, and not all Wiccans call themselves Wiccans. that is why i wrote it that way.

Blessed Be,
Orion
The Solitaire Brotherhood

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Permalink Reply by Raeven/OHP on May 30, 2008 at 11:34pm

To any who care to read this ones belief in the Differance of a Pagan and of Wiccan !

My Grandparents came from Ireland along with my Great Grandma.
This is the way it was explained to me,
1st Pagan is a given Christen Name to Any who choosed to worship more than 1 God
Same as the Name "Heathen" given to Indians
2nd Wiccan is also a given Christen Name, Just a little mixed up tho! Yet this is where the differance comes in to play. The way to relate to this is the same as a Holy gathering. In Olden Times, All cultures, Clear back to the caveman. Would have Gatherings! (The time of the year would depend on the country and Weather where the people lived) Ok back to the telling, Well then All the different Clans would come together to either Trade their wares or to Show off Their skills and Yes to Exchange for Husbands and Wifes, so on and exct "Now" Back in time in a certain language, A "Wica" was a Title for a Male and A "Wicee" was a Title for a Women.
Both Healers or Herbalist "as you will" and when Their Group got togeather it was then Called a Wiccan! Now the way I was told is that The Words were of the
Welsh language. And as we All know, In that period of time, Everyone was traveling everywhere, Shareing, Trading, Takeing and we know the rest. But Some would endup staying in a different land either by chioce or Not, and All were trying to either teach or learn a new language. Now this is where alot of New words were starting to come from for 1 word in a certian language could mean more then 1 in another. So as
to hear it from my GreatGrandma This is also where the word "Druid" came from. For They were the 1st known Healers in Ireland, and Later became known as the Rhizotomists. Anyways to make a short story long! Lol I will close for now.
As Always; Brighest Blessings to You and Yours:
Till Next;
Raeven.OHP
W/Hugs

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Permalink Reply by Pavlor on May 31, 2008 at 3:07am

A "Wica" was a Title for a Male and A "Wicee" was a Title for a Women.
Both Healers or Herbalist "as you will" and when Their Group got togeather it was then Called a Wiccan! Now the way I was told is that The Words were of the
Welsh language.

Are you saying that "Wica", "Wicee" and "Wiccan" are from the Welsh language originally, Raeven?

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Permalink Reply by Raeven/OHP on May 31, 2008 at 3:14am

Yes, that is what I am saying, Though the spelling of the words in this day and age may not be exactly the way they were spelled in the days of time, You know how tanslations can be.
Till Next
Raeven/OHP

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