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Ok, first off, let me me say that this is not an attempt to bully anyone into a particular use of any given symbol.  What this is intended to be is a kind of "advisory."  It's just not the advisory you think.


Lately I've been noticing a couple of groups using this symbol as their marquee-image:

Now, understand, that this particular symbol comes from Simon's Necronomicon.

The book itself is controversial in it's supposed authenticity, the mechanics it operates by, and what people suppose/imagine/hope it does.

The seal itself (and understand it IS a magical seal) is comprised of three symbols

The Arra Star: Otherwise known as the pentacle

According to the book, and I quote:

...In the tounge of the eldest city of Babylon, it was UR. It is the Sigil of the Covenant of the Elder Gods, and when they see it, they that gave it to us, they will not forget us, they have sworn!

Now the Sumerians DID indeed use the pentacle, but they gave it a slightly different meaning...allow me to quote the Wiki:

The first known uses of the pentagram are found in Mesopotamian writings dating to about 3000 BC. The Sumerian pentagrams served as pictograms for the word "UB" meaning "corner,
angle, nook; a small room, cavity, hole; pitfall," suggesting something
very similar to the pentemychos (see below on the Pythagorean use for
what pentemychos means). In René Labat's index system of
Sumerian hieroglyphs/pictograms
it is shown with two points up.

In the
Babylonian context, the edges of the pentagram
were probably orientations: forward, backward, left, right, and "above".

These directions also had an
meaning, representing the five planets
Mercury, Mars and Saturn,
as the "Queen of Heaven" (
Ishtar) above.

Pythagoras had a similar view.  Again, from the Wiki:

The Pythagoreans called the pentagram ὑγιεία Hygieia ("health"; also the Greek goddess of health, Hygieia),
and saw in the pentagram a mathematical perfection (see Geometry
section below).

The ancient Pythagorean pentagram was drawn with two points up and
represented the doctrine of
Pentemychos.sources from March 2010" style="white-space: nowrap; font-style: italic;"">[citation needed] Pentemychos
means "five recesses" or "five chambers", also known as the pentagonas —
the five-angle, and was the title of a work written by
teacher and friend
Pherecydes of Syros.]
It was also the "place" where the first pre-cosmic offspring had to be
put in order for the ordered cosmos to appear.

So in other words, the original meaning of the symbol seems to be to create a SINKHOLE, of a kind.  A "heavy place".  In astronomical/QP terminology...a singularity.  Now, if you think about it, it's use within a magic circle as a summoning tool (the actual circle is the means of protection) this fits well within it's use in ceremonial magic.

(This is confirmed by the Arab himself when he first describes the symbols that make up the composite glyph we're talking about and where he finds them: "...These are the signs that were carved on the Gate to the Outside....".   In other words, these symbols used in conjunction, are NOT, a level of protection- rather they are components of a gate sequence.  Many people use the medallion above, not knowing what they are doing is much like having a medallion a of voudoun veve, hanging around their neck.)

How this corellates to the meaning the Mad Arab gave it (aka Simon), you're gonna have to make your own call. Where it gets interesting though, is when you realize who GAVE the Arra Star to man.

Marduk, Vanquisher of Tiamat and the Elder Gods. I could get into the whole reason WHY he gave it to man, but assuming you know what the symbol is, it means you've read the book, right?  What I will say is the one thing that DOES match the idea that it represents a covenant has to do with who progresses to become, the prototype of the Abrahamic "God".   Marduk eventually, according to several theories, evolves into The Archangel Michael, He Who Is Set Over Chaos.

What's more there are Christian meanings of the pentagram that predate the witchhunt hysteria, I recommend reading the Wikipedia article completely. Illuminating.

The next symbol to make it up is this:

This, according to the Mad Arab (and therefore Simon) is :

....the Elder Sign.  And is the Key whereby the Powers of the Elder Gods  may be summoned, when used with the proper words and shapes.

Now, I really can't (or shouldn't) refute this.  What I will say is this.  The sigil itself seems to be drawn according to the mechanics of Golden Dawn sigil work. While I can't verify this for a fact, I will say that it would make a bit of sense (or at least WORK IN CONTEXT) Due to the fact that the Golden Dawn system based on a HEBREW Rosetta.  Written Hebrew is something relatively least in the time scale we're looking at.  Hebrew, as a written and disseminated language, did not "exist" until after the Babylon Captivity.  It is widely thought and agreed upon that written Hebrew is a  variant of Akkadian, which at the time was one of the languages predominant in Babylon, as was Sumerian.

Again, we have a prototypical Levant root to which has evolved into a from of Abrahamic Magic.  Just like Marduk to Michael.

The Third symbol is this

It is called the Bandar.  It is the Sign of the Watchers, as The Arab describes:

The Watcher is a Race sent by the Elder Ones.  It keeps Vigil while one sleeps, provided the appropriate ritual and sacrifice has been performed: else, if called, it will turn on you.

Watcher, defined by both Wikipedia and most "authorities" on the subject, is another name for Grigori.  Some of you may remember me bringing up that word in past blogs. What's more, there "others" in thei field which have taken the whole "Greek Titan" angle and run with it.

What is important to remember is that this sigil is ALSO  drawn and functions by Golden Dawn mechanics. 
 (note:  The glyph for bandar you see here is not drawn at the appropriate angle of reflection between "values". Use for this sigil in cybermagic is not advised.)
SO...NOW you have three symbols, All with Levantine roots functioning within a framework of Hebrew/Christian ritual magic. In many ways, it's kinda like finding one of those old car stereo adapters....the ones that allowed you to play cassette tapes through an 8-track player.  And that's the beauty I think, of what Simon REALLY did.

He repaganized judeo-christian ritual magic by using the the root symbolism,  but configured it using ritual magic made to function with Christian Ritual Magic mechanics.  Fucking brilliant.  He "sold refrigerators to Eskimos".

But, knowing all of this , it begs the questions.

If you're using this symbol for your group marquee, did you know that-

A: The source you took it from is regarded as reconstructed Judaism at it's best and fiction at it's worst?

B :Most people who have done the work actually DOING the rituals IN THE BOOK understand the connections to Judaism and Christianity? Especially since many of the "Gates" therein function according kabballic mechanics?

C. That because most of the people who are familiar with the symbol, and therefore the book, see the book as something dubious both it's purported origin and it's "pitch", those same people see it as..well...a bit of a lack of sagaciousness in using it as it seems to be?

Understand this is not a browbeating.  I'd just like to know your reasoning.

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The name and attribute belong to Simon.

As for the pentacle meaning according to Sumer...that came from Wikipedia and seems to be accredited. Therefore, it's original meaning seems to be before the association with the Venus thought form. Go ahead and read the Wiki article. It's pretty good.

Understand also that Inanna is the Sumerian Goddess of love and war. She evolves into Istar, and then Venus, as far as history goes.

It is interesting that geneology-wise, Venus IS more aptly termed a Titan than a Godddess.
hey - im being nice here ok, giving you info.

Acknowledged. Thank you for being/doing so.

the venus pentacle is astronomical not mythological

Correct. The Wiki discussed it ....the movement looks like this:

The problem I have with the direct association of the pentagram to Venus at the Sumerian/Babylonian is that the Sumerians, while already associating Inanna with the planet Venus, the symbol they chose for to represent Inanna is not the pentagram, but this

Now please understand this is not an effort to find fault with anyone...this is a question of transcription. Because the Necronomicon translates this symbol into something else, glyph wise:

So what I'm trying to understand about all this is literally the transcription process.

If the Sumerians associated the pentagram with Inanna/Venus, why is the symbol for her the eight rayed star, and not the pentagram? The problem isn't exactly Simon in this case (although he does get something "wrong" from the point of view as how the pentagram is set in the seal compared to how the Sumerians saw it.)
The discussion with bow was to show that the Sumerian/Akkadian meaning of the Pentagram is not the same as what most pagans and wiccans think it was. That while it WAS associated with the MOVEMENT of Venus, it was not attributed to the goddess-form herself. And since the Sumerian/Akkadian context is what SIMON chooses to adhere to, that concept it must be taken in.

As for finding validation in the gates and the star....see the statement I made on kaballic framework versus kaballah. Let me know what you want cleared up.
Clear up for me, the 'most pagans and wiccans think it was' because the way I see it, I see many making the Sumerian correlations.

If they were, would they be wearing a symbol which meant "corner,
angle, nook; a small room, cavity, hole; pitfall?" Is that how they think of themselves? A hole to be filled? A dangerous drop in ground level? I don't think most of them think of that when they put on a pentacle around their neck, or get it tattooed on their body?
I'm also a little fuzzy on how you are making the 'sink hole' and 'heavy place' summation and 'gave to' in terms of a tangible thing to man.

I am, as well, because it is not my connotation. It's Simon's. That was my problem with it, too.
The symbol serves as an allegory, it 'represents' ideas. Most of which, include serving as 'vessel'.

Are you saying most Pagans and Wiccans prefer to think of themselves as merely vessels of thier diety?
What I'm getting at is the fact that the Inanna star has EIGHT points, the pentagram has FIVE. What I am saying is there seems to be a transcription issue where, although the pentagram IS reflective of Venusian movement, the Sumerians and Akkadians chose to represent the Goddess herself with with a different symbol.

The Sumerians and Akkadians were huge on numerology. If a star had five points, it had a meaning. If it had eight points, it had a DIFFERENT meaning.

SO...the pentagram cannot be said to reflect the thought form of Inanna, and therefore any innate spiritual connection with it's present use. That kind of association was made sometime after. That's what I'm saying.
At that point I need to see where the Sumerians/Akkadians made the direct link between the thought-form and the pentacle. As it stands, all I see is a kind of arc from one to the other, but no direct connection.

The closest I get is the Pythagorean school.

I'm not dissing her or saying she's wrong, I just need to see where the connection she's seeing is made.
Adding the book to my list on amazon. I'd like to see this guy's citations....especially since it sounds more than a little theosophical.
from SIN: LM, you do know that SIMON invented this symbol (and it's symbolism) and is completely fictitious right? That's what I heard and I decided to agree with SIN.
Thanks for the info though.
All fictions are drawn from symbols within a person's consciousness. You know that as well as I do. This gives them the validity you would place on any psychological meanings you would find in your own story, or what others would find in it.

As for proof of it's "validity"... I always like to refer to a specific glyph in the Nininb Gate's left internal frame :D.

Have you read Gates of the Necronomicon, then?
Whaaaaat? No they are not.

'All fictions' pffft.




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