I figured this would be a helpful place to ask, since paganism spans multiple generations and y'all have different backgrounds that might be helpful C:
(see below - original large attachment image removed by Starr, resized and added to discussion)
Do you recognize this symbol? If so…. please tell me! No one in my family knows what it is.
When my grandmother died a few years ago, she left me all her particularly meaningful jewelry that wasn’t of monetary value, so I know it is representative of something. The issue is….. no one knows what! I’ve tried looking up symbols online… but it is kinda tough when I don’t even know how to describe it. I do have a few clues though —
—My grandma came from a long line of Catholics and other jewelry I got included hand-made necklaces out of old rosary beads that were broken. I’ve asked a few catholic folks (since it does look kinda like a weird cross) but they don’t recognize it and said it was specifically different enough that it might have some other symbolism. Does it just look like a stylized cross?
--She also had Native American friends and I inherited some jewelry based on that.
—She was VERY irish in heritage — she and my grandfather (a hard-core Scottish man) traveled to Ireland and Scotland multiple times and were involved in clan meetings and such. Forbes clan to be specific. Her mother was from Ireland but moved here and became a flapper, and my grandma was left to be raised by her aunts. I have inherited old lockets from my great-great grandmother, so it is plausible that it could be pretty old.
—She also traveled to other places with my grandfather that included Egypt. I actually inherited a scarab beetle-themed bracelet from her as well, so it could be a souvenir with Egyptian background.
—finally, she was…. odd. She used to wear Christmas ornaments as jewelry sometimes too. So this could just as well be an old modified belt buckle based off some company logo.
I was really curious when I first got it, but after the funeral it broke from being worn so much by her that it literally was worn through… but after these years my dad finally found the pieces and put it back together for me, hence me wanting to figure out this mystery again.
Thanks for any help!
Tags: symbol
very nice piece. the cross pattern is the Tau cross pattern , after that i have no idea . i would sugguest that you take several pictures of it and submit them to the smithsonian museum. also check for markings , such as a date , or jewelers marks . good luck
Permalink Reply by Silvie on October 27, 2012 at 6:49pm That gets me closer than I was before -- thanks a lot! And I have checked for any markings, and it has none. I think it may have originally been covered in a black coating though, because there is some on the edges still that can be scratched off. Either that or it's tarnish. But if it was black then the markings might have been painted on it and scratched off... oh well.
Thanks again!
Permalink Reply by Amethyst Samia on October 27, 2012 at 6:28pm
Permalink Reply by Silvie on October 27, 2012 at 6:54pm Thanks for the advice! I might ask her if no one else figures it out first.
She really was! I so regret not getting to know her better before she passed on. But with her passing the entire family has grown closer and we've learned much more about her since.
Permalink Reply by Lilitu Xoc on October 27, 2012 at 7:33pm >Celticlass is very familiar with Scottish and/or Irish culture and heritage so she might be able to confirm or deny it's from that aspect of your grandma's life.
Relying on her as an "expert" of any Scottish or Irish knowledge is like using a Llewellyn book as an academic source for a paper and getting an F for it being so inaccurate.
Permalink Reply by Amethyst Samia on October 27, 2012 at 7:47pm
Permalink Reply by Lilitu Xoc on October 27, 2012 at 8:02pm I had to use spell check to spell it. :>
Permalink Reply by Amethyst Samia on October 27, 2012 at 8:16pm
Permalink Reply by Silvie on October 27, 2012 at 7:48pm Well I'm researching this for my own intrinsic reasons so any leads at all are helpful. I can't get an 'F' when I don't think I'm going to be tested over it C:
Permalink Reply by Lilitu Xoc on October 27, 2012 at 8:02pm I was using a metaphor. There are more knowledgeable people on this board who can actually cite facts. Class is not known for this.
Permalink Reply by Lilitu Xoc on October 27, 2012 at 10:13pm No, it's not "just my biased opinion". Kara and other people who are actually Scottish have debated with Lass on the subject and she demonstrated that she is nothing more than a Neopagan Romanticist who doesn't really know history of "ye olde Celtic ways". She can't even get the modern clan ideal straight let alone tell you what a druid did historically vs modern thought. Would you like me to cite my sources?
Permalink Reply by Lilitu Xoc on October 27, 2012 at 10:36pm No, I know she doesn't as I have also basic knowledge of some things Irish.
Lass never cites her sources, she always speaks from her own subjective experiences, she never uses anything objectively, and she has with SOURCES been proved WRONG on more than one occasion quite frequently. Her excuse is that "science isn't everything" but there is a lot of physical evidence against her assertions. She has even spouted wrong information about Mesoamerica and the Mayans, which I do have extensive knowledge on.
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