I will be the first to admit that usually my first reaction to some things is to become defensive, then I have to stop reread and really think about the situation before I respond. With so many people and so many views there is bound to be differences of opinions and viewpoints, but how far does someone or something have to go before you are offended? Are you offended every time someone disagrees with your opinion? Are you offended everytime someone makes an off handed remark about your faith? What about when a TV show such as the news shows your faith in bad light or when a cartoon has a bad witch in it. To me some things are not worth getting all pumped up about, for instance a cartoon that has a bad witch in it. Do I think they were attacking a belief or people that call themselves a witch? No. It's a cartoon. If the witch is throwing a kid in an oven I would call that a bad witch. Are we that easily offended? Is Hansel and Gretel a story based on anti-paganism? What is in your opinion offensive? What is in your opinion someone's over reaction to something?
Misty
The children are sent into the wood to die because there is not enough food. And so it goes on, from breadcrumbs, to edible houses, to hungry witches. :)) On your general question, Misty, I would say that traditional depictions of witchcraft do not offend me. The stereotype is too well-established for that, though, in general, the attitude in England on such matters is probably more relaxed than it is, perhaps, in the States.
Permalink Reply by Lara on February 18, 2009 at 9:29pm
When you can look beneath their behavior that offended or hurt you, and you can see the frightened child - it becomes nearly impossible to be angry and carry a grudge...
Ha! When that day comes i'll let ya know..
But.. when somethng does grate and effect me, shifting my mood, my heartbeat ect, I feel the pendulum swing...With practise I wait for the arc to FEEL natural, then Ijump on it's swing so to speak- and go with the flow and explore the why?
For me personally as long as I still feel like me & can stand the sound of my own voice then I will continue to explore what may be hidden in my memories, but if I feel the need to attack or be offensive / defence overtakes the why... Then I back off and count to 9, anon, anon, anon anon..
Who really knows what will activate US as Beings or when...?
But.. when my intuition kicks and I FEEL baited just for bait's sake, then I WILL ignore the HOOK, and trust that IF the lesson IS for ME, then it will come again IN a kinder way..
"Thats using your power IN Trust & Time & Space.."
Following the thread of TV programs, I was astounded when years back I showed my neices some episodes of HR Puff 'N Stuff, I used to have a serious crush on Jimmy & his magical flute Freddy, lol..
And to my surprise it was the witch who scared the crap out of them & gave them nightmares for ages..
My point IS... they are quite modern young women who live in a world where they interact with far more graphic material & I thought they would have a laugh..
One never knows what IS seeded in a person's soul, doth one..?
We should be of more avail to each other IF REAL sparks are flying... IF not WE should seal our offense in wise council for ourselves One & ALL..
When that day comes for ME, i'll let ya know..
BB Lara..
Permalink Reply by Jo on February 18, 2009 at 10:19pm
I don't get offended by much, and when I do feel offended by something I take a step away from what I felt was offensive and look at it from a different perspective.Then I usually just laugh at myself for having felt offended. I like discussing things with others and tend to be blunt about how I feel. I also don't try to offend others, but like I said I tend to be blunt when discussing things with others. You should hear me and my family discuss things - sometimes we yell - but it really is in good fun with no real anger. I like knowing that there are people out there that have different opinions from my own. I feel that this makes the world a much more interesting and vibrant place.
I don't really get offended in that way. Sure, when I'm in someones company and someone lets loose a ripper... My senses are easily offended :)
But everything else; if people get easily offended by something trivial, really they should take a long hard look at the source and question why they are offended.
Too many take themselves way too seriously, must be that stick they've got shoved up their... You get the idea.
Is that offensive to anyone? Can't say I really care :)
Permalink Reply by Siiri on February 18, 2009 at 10:48pm
I am offended rather easily...to be honest. But I am usually good at keeping it to myself when appropriate. But most of the things that offend me are things that a 'normal' person should be offended at anyway (like making jokes about rape), so hiding it isn't always necessary.
I only get offended when a comment or action is directed towards me, personaly or towards someone I love. The media generalizes everything to the point that noone should take personal offense. Now, if a newscrew showed up on my lawn microphones a-blazin, along with pitchforks, catholic priests, and the like...then, I would be offended. Hollywood is for entertainment. ENTERTAINMENT people! Don't like what your lookin at? Stop lookin!
Change the damn channel! Someone likes it or it would not be broadcasted. As far as cartoon witches go, I think they are cute...I collect them in fact.
Personally I could care less what society says and/or thinks about who and what I am.
To me...there is no good...bad...neutral witch. There is just a witch. Everyone has an opinion and a viewpoint...from your common homeless bum to the biggot out on the street, holding a sign that reads "God hate Faggots, God made the Terrorist blow up the United States"
Do they annoy and piss me off? Yeah to an extent.
The jackass up on a pulpit preaching "God disowns witches and we should too for they shall never enter the our saviors kingdom" is also on the same level (meaning they might annoy and piss me off to an extent).
But overall...they can all kiss my broomstick, hex tossing, poppet making, green colored, wart on the nose, witchy ass.
i would say as for being offensive it takes someone personally attaking me or mine. but to show my beleife system in a bad light does not bother me. as for over reacvting i personally mind you would say that if your offened then leve or drop it. but if you start a fight about it or start argueing then your over reacting. bide your time althings will be revieled in due time.
I understands what everyone is saying, But when do we take a stand for what we believe in ? Or should we have something never changes ? I learned that everything changes and changes is everything. So, where does it starts and end? If we don't say what is troubling us on some level, then we will always be pushed around. A person can take so much until we break. And that is what others want. Others may say so what , we really don't have rights since we are not christian or into other believes. I even heard that some have say, we will break apart sooner or later and they will not have to worry about any more pagans. How do you feel, when we are being betting on? But we do live and for that we all need to know where can we start standing up again. I see the time line going around and around. And never really changes.
Everyone talks about equal rights for this or for that and how we need to stand up for that or the other but it seems to me that it is more talk than anything. With all the changes that people say need to be made, what is being done about it? What are we doing on a personal level to make the changes we say so desperately needs to be made? We have freedom of religion, we have freedom of speech, and there are those that use these to their advantage but there are many more that remain quiet. Why do you think that is? Personaly I don't mind not being in the spot light, not being mainstream, to me it enables us to keep that anonamity factor and keeps anyone from trying to regulate us even more. My workings are usually a private matter and I don't want the public eye on everything I do. What type of changes do you think will come when pagans in general are all recognized and put into public view? What effect do you think the publicity ( make no doubt there will publicity ) and the spot light will have on us as a whole, on our covens, our personal practices, even solitaries? I'm sure there will be some good but with that comes the bad.