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If any of you here watched Real Time last night, you already know that Bill Maher had as one of his guests Congressman Adam Schiff, who is the Ranking Member of the House Intelligence Committee. Maher interviewed Congressman Schiff regarding the events of this past week. (See video below.)

Here in the U.S., we are constantly hearing about the struggle between conservatism and liberalism. But on the world stage, the struggle is viewed as being between authoritarianism and democracy. Schiff stated:

There is a real struggle of ideas around the world of authoritarianism versus democracy. Putin is leading the autocratic vanguard and his imitators in Cairo and Ankara, Turkey and the Philippines. There's a real struggle, and you have a president of the United States who loves these authoritarian figures.

What is your take on this? Do you see a world struggle in the terms that Congressman Schiff spoke about?

Please don't use this topic as an opportunity to say how much you hate or love Trump. What I want to know is this: Where do you stand when it comes to authoritarianism vs. democracy?

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Awesome response, Vegan!  Your eloquence and the thought you put into your response to this topic is very much appreciated.

 

I have thought for some time that the disconnect in real politics from the propaganda is a result of the failures in education. I don't know if they bother to teach civics anymore - or if they do what format it takes.

 

I don't know whether they teach civics in school anymore, either.  I don't think it wasn't offered as a separate course when I was in high school, but I'm certain it was covered in my social studies class. 

 

Socialism is universal in democracy. That shocks peoples, makes some want to get their guns and hit the barricades!

 

Here's the thing, socialism is the post office, the fire department, having a publicly funded police force, the environmental protection authority, and an education system with universal standards.

 

Don't forget public libraries!  :) 

 

I'm reminded of something that Bernie Sanders once said:  “I myself don’t use the word socialism, because people have been brainwashed into thinking socialism automatically means slave-labor camps, dictatorship and lack of freedom of speech.”

 

I think Bernie got it right.  If he had been the Democratic Party's nominee, I wonder where we would be today?

I'm against authoritarianism and pure Democracy.

pure Democracy would put the will of the majority over the minority.An example would be prop 8 would have passed and nothing could have been done about Constitution rights.

The U.S. is a Constitutional Republic (or was at some point)but is more a representative Republic. Right now honestly I just shake my head at what is going on.

Countries outside of the U.S. are filtering what is happening through their own political world view.Which is either Democratic or Authoritative. 

 I'm against...pure Democracy.

Me, too.  The USA is a Constitutional Republic.  We're not a pure democracy and we don't want to be.  Pure democracy can fall into mob rule.  The Founders of our nation wanted to avoid that so the Constitution is specifically designed to protect minorities.

People argue "Why does the majority have to cowtow and change our ways just because less than 1% of our population (LGBTQ) wants something?"

The proper response back is "It doesn't matter if there was only one LGBTQ in the entire nation, that person would still have rights that need addressing."

Greece was a pure democracy; the legislators were the first 100 m************ that showed up :)

Thanks for your input, Wilhelm.

I also think that our system of representative democracy is preferable over pure democracy. 

 

But what happens when our elected representatives are more concerned about their political party than they are about the people they purportedly represent? 

Drug tests.

But what happens when our elected representatives are more concerned about their political party than they are about the people they purportedly represent? 

Well, ideally/originally, voting them out was the answer.

Unfortunately, in a great many states, gerrymandering voting districts has been done to keep them in power no matter how the people vote.

Lets not forget all of ballot access laws put up to keep down competition from third parties. It was a bipartisan effort.

But what happens when our elected representatives are more concerned about their political party than they are about the people they purportedly represent? 

That's when the system fails and the people need to actually step up.

I think "we" have become complacent and just allowed Government to do as it wishes because it was easier and it somewhat gave the people what they wanted.

I'm Independent and want an end to the bipartisanship politics we've been handed for generations.For me the two parties are corrupt with pandering to special interests and pocket lining.I do lean more Democrat though and there was some promising third party candidates the came close,and although not perfect I think Sanders would have been preferable to what we are dealing with currently.

What is your take on this? Do you see a world struggle in the terms that Congressman Schiff spoke about?

Yep. More precisely, it's about oligarchy/kleptocracy. It makes you wonder what they're trying to amass all that loot for.

It makes you wonder what they're trying to amass all that loot for.

It's very expensive to buy a ticket on the ark that can save only a small portion of humanity.

I want to laugh at this, but it would be a nervous laugh. 

Seriously, though, I think they know global warming is not a hoax, and that the shit's gonna hit the fan soon. The people in power and money seem to be desperately trying to amass more so that they'll be able to have the water, food, oil, etc., to survive it. 

The rest of us are quite likely fucked.

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