Since we're going to be moving to a newer format soon with more people helping with the site I thought it would be a good idea to place up a simple version of acceptable and non-acceptable rules for the site.
First, let me say that the upcoming changes are not going to change the purpose of the site or the freedom that everyone here is accustomed to nor are you really going to see any significant changes, most of it will take place behind the scenes, such as quicker pending member approval - quicker issue report response etc.
This site was created as a place for all beliefs to come and interact and that will not ever change as long as I'm breathing and even after I'm not...lol. This site has been my baby for almost five years, for lack of better words and I will never stand by idly and allow it to be screwed up. Just so most are aware of my stance on the changes below is some of what I recently posted regarding admin responsibilities. I'm posting this part because the admins will be the most noticeable change on the site, and I know a lot of people are concerned about ban happy or power tripping admins, I've seen this on many sites and I will never tolerate that type of behavior here. We're all members here and no one is above another. If any abuse takes place within management please know that positions can be taken away just as quickly as it was given. My intentions for the changes were never to give myself a big headache, so let's just say that if I have to eat Tylenol daily then it's going to be a big problem...lol
I'm pasting the high-points of what I posted regarding administrator duties and handling issues:
Ok now onto basic site rules :)
Most of you are probably already aware of most of this because it's pretty standard stuff :) But for the sake of the upcoming changes and to ease the members mind I'm going to post it here publicly :)
Basic Rules of the Site
This site is public which means it's accessible to everyone, even minors. We have a no nudity or pornographic content rule (applies to both text, external links and imagery) which is even posted in the areas where you upload photos. General rule, if they're covered it's ok - if you can see through it, it's uncovered or depicts any type of sexual acts, it's not ok. I know there are many artistic paintings out there depicting nudity so here is the legal terminology to add to this, let me note, even if you feel your nude photographs are artwork that does not negate that it is still nude photos; this goes for Photoshopped nude photos as well.
The best rule here, if you are in question is to ask before you post it :)
We pay for the space we use, with that being said it's important that you size down your images before uploading them. Anything over 150k is too large and unacceptable. Be aware that we're not funded like Facebook, so be respectful of the space you use here.
The same content guidelines apply to videos. Also there is to be no video uploads (it's pasted all over the place) - if you want to share a video in the video section then use the embed function for Youtube etc.
No excessive profanity or insults. This is not meant that people can't drop a bad word here and there or get annoyed with someone, we all do it sometimes but if you're main focus here is to insult or use profane language then you may fare better on another site. I have no issues with people getting into arguments (within reason) or debates and I do realize they can get heated at times but if you cannot police your own behavior and realize when it's on the verge of going too far then you could find yourself removed.
Any content that is patently offensive and promotes racism, bigotry, hatred or physical harm of any kind against any group or individual is strictly prohibited and will result in immediate banning.
Content that infringes any patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright or other proprietary rights of any party, or Content that you do not have a right to make available under any law or under contractual or fiduciary relationships.
As with any website you will have some that like to stir it up, stirring it up is not against the rules (as long as it's not trolling), with that being said keep in mind that you choose your interactions here. If you find someone to be in your opinion a complete arse to deal with then don't respond to them. If you reference them in your postings/responses then do not whine or complain when they respond as you have invited them into discourse. In other words, if you really don't want to deal with them then do not engage them; if you do engage them (either passive aggressively or directly) then don't report them for being problematic; as you will be seen as being just as problematic by engaging it and keeping it going.
Sometimes trolling can fall under the previous paragraph, every site has their fair share of these types. One distinction to note is that disagreeing, even strongly disagreeing is not trolling. Trolling occurs when someone has no other point aside from causing as much discord as possible without any real discourse. There are some here who walk a fine line from time-to-time but anytime we have noted actual trolling it has been handled immediately.
Basic definition: a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
Maximum of 5 blog posts per day and the same content guidelines apply to blogs.
If you have something to sell or you're trying to get traffic to your site or podcast etc. then utilize your blog, your personal profile page or advertise with us. Podcasters need to use the Podcasters of PaganSpace group which is advertised on the right hand column to place up your podcast schedules for free. The forums, personal messages (mass messaging etc.) members page comments area and groups (unless it's a group specifically for this) is off-limits to advertising. Our advertisers help pay for this site and it's unfair to them when people try to get sales and traffic for free when they're (paid advertisers) helping to pay to keep this site going.
As a general rule, you should just police your own behavior and know when to back away from situations that may cause issues with breaking the rules of the site. I fully understand that people get annoyed with each other but as adults we should be able to walk away or just focus on things we find interesting or enjoyable on the site verses battling it out for the sake of battling (which is really annoying to read might I add...lol)
All members are 18 and up on this site, if you find a member who is underage then please report the profile to us.
If you start a forum topic, stay on top of it. If it's getting out of control and you can't reel it back in then do the responsible thing and close it so, it's not a free-for-all argument sitting on the front page of the site. If the topic is reported or we happen to notice it and it's obviously escalated into nothing more than pages of an ugly argument then the topic will be closed. If we close a topic and it's re-opened by the OP without admin approval, the OP will be banned from the site.
Forums posted to call out members is forbidden. If you have an issue with a member then either report it or work it out amongst yourselves.
Other websites: If you dislike another site, that's fine but do not use this site as a personal smear campaign against another website.
People disagreeing: If you only want information from people who may understand you or agree with you then use your blog; as you can moderate the responses. The forums are open to all members which means you will receive arguments both for and against your topic.
Believe it or not, banning members is the last resort unless someone has joined the site and is instantly noted as a troll or spammer. If it's a random incident then we choose to try and work out issues rather than banning people. But sometimes banning is necessary and if it's necessary then it will take place.
If you share someone's personal information on this site and we find out about it you will be removed. This is not dramaspace and your personal interactions/issues (unless it's breaking the rules of this site) with people are none of our business and sharing of members personal information is strictly forbidden.
If you need to report an issue then please keep it short and to the point. If you're reporting another member then please keep it to the facts as we do not need to read your long drawn out opinion of the person, we just need to read the facts of the issue.
If you feel as though someone is annoying you or you just don't want them posting to your comments, then there's an easy solution. If they are on your friends list go to their page on the left hand column you will see the link to remove them from your friends list. In that same area you will see a Block link, click that and they will no longer be able to message you. If you don't want them commenting on your page/blogs etc then go to the settings link (top right column of all pages) > Privacy and set your comment areas to friends only here's the direct link to your privacy settings.
If you don't like someone then apply the everyday logic we use in regular life and don't talk to them. With having so many members there will of course, be personality clashes. So, with that being said everyone doesn't have to like everyone else and if you find yourself focusing primarily on the people you dislike or constantly injecting yourself into interacting with them then that will be by your own choice, as this site has a lot of things going on all over the site all the time. Bottom line, you choose your experience here, it can be great or it can be stinky (I love that word...lol) the key word is choice.
And breathe ...lol I'll update this more as time goes on but this is pretty much the basics. Bottom line have fun that's what the site is here for :)
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Thank you Sat! I know there's been a lot of behind the scenes discussions about the upcoming changes and I wanted to try and help with those concerns as well as set up the basic ground rules for the site. I also just added a PaganSpace Help & How-To Group to help with common questions; I'll be updating the group regularly with more how-to's & help topics etc.
Thanks for making the rules clear, Starr. I knew most of them but it was good to get a refresher so to speak.
I am new and perused the rules, and I have a question...you said no nudity because there could be minors here. but then it says no members under the age of 18. isn't that contradictory?
I also would like to find out where to get a badge for my blog, like the one i saw on the blog I found you guys through, can you help?
Because teens can lie about their age and sometimes will tell "you" without showing the "actual age" on the profile - then report you in. It might turn out they are an adult or underaged.
It also states that the site is open to the public, which means anyone can view the entirety of the site including minors. None-the-less even if minors could not access the site, there would still be no nudity allowed on the site as it opens the doors for a lot of things which I do not feel like absorbing my entire day everyday dealing with (people can and will always take allowing nudity to the extreme and blur the lines into porn, it's a given and one I'm not wishing to deal with quite honestly) and the network we run on prohibits it as well as do most social networks.
This site is for adults to meet others and converse but just because it's for adults does not mean that equates to Adult Content in the context of nudity etc. I hope this helps a bit.
You can get a badge under the Xtras tab > Badges but here's the direct link for them.
Then what is the purpose of joining an adult site, if one can not act as an adult??
I am NO pervert or deviant...but I do art, and enjoy art, and sometimes that art is nudes or nudity. I do not see the human body as porn, unless it is put in a position to be porn.
This appears to be a LARGE community. A Pagan community, people who believe in Nature and the goddesses and gods and the earth and natural things etc. I find it hard to fathom that everyone on this site is ok with this NO Nudity thing. I totally understand the no porn.
Do not misunderstand, I will follow any rules put before me. I am just voicing my opinion of THIS rule in THIS setting. It kind of goes against what most pagan believe, no??
being that paganism is an umbrella term at best for any religion that is non christian, jewish, or islamic, and being that the actual headline for the site is "a social network for the occult community" you are going to have people here from all walks of spiritual life, christian occultists, jewish mystics, buddhists, etc. This is also not taking into account that there are and more then likely will continue to be plain old christians and people of every faith joining in order to learn about occultism and paganism due to possibly a self interest or having family or loved ones that follow these paths.
So i would venture to say that not everyone here believes in nature and natural things and see's nudity as such.
The rule is there i would say primarily for liability reasons. while you may have to be 18+ to JOIN the site, if the forums are not set to private to view, minors can still read forums/see public pages/blogs/etc (this is one way Ads and site indexing works) and so could see any nudity posted that way.
Not to mention minors can and do lie and slip through the cracks. as much as it personally does not bother me, and how it can seem a confusing rule (i went lolwut myself) when you think about it, it could cause a lawsuit and/or get the site shut down. these are largely not just the rules of Paganspace.net but of Ning, who host's our bandwith and has it's own TOS all sites it host's must comply with.
Susan, as a life artist myself I am curious to know which medium you work in? Most of my nudes have been acrylic paintings or pencil sketches but I have also done the occasional ceramic nudes.
I am wondering if Ning would allow views of nudes from the back, if they were NOT photos. That way the "worst" a teen would see is a painting or sketch of naked buttocks. Also, what about nudes with the "lower front" parts covered, as is the case with classical art? They may still see a ladies naked breasts but that is no worse than some of the newspapers print here in England.
I have read and understand.
But I have one question. I have (or had) music on my pages in my profile and groups, and it is seems now we have to actually click the link to the music playlist site to hear it.
Will we ever beable to have music again on our main pages?
The music player settings are controlled by your player (playlist.com) we don't have any control over that. I just went to their site and it looks like they changed their format and no longer do the site embedded players, when I accessed the site I have to login now to even listen to music verses the way it was before. An alternate playlist source for your profile will be needed as they appear to have ceased with the embedded version of their playlists for sites.
THANKS for adding the rules and regs...NING sets the RULES on Skycladness (NAKED).....we DONT want to get the site shut down,pretty specific ,no clothes,your nude......Looking forward to all the exciting things happening and moving happlily along! A HUGE family with thousands,we love some ,like others,dont like some and get along to the best of our abilities,those of us that have been here for years,like any large community,indeed........DIDSCUSSION......stay on top of it,yup.........to me,thart is being polite and owing your own OP.....Have a great full moon all!!
I didn't realize that NING had it 's own rules against nudity. thank you for pointing that out to me. Also i appreciate knowing NOW (after joining) that the community is NOT just open to members only, I'll be extra careful in what I say and how I say it. I join communities to be apart of something that is of like minded people to mingle, share, learn and make friends. Generally I do this thinking, it is truly a members only group.
I also thank you all for having a light-hearted, spirited but serious discussion on my questions and the rules. It is nice to know I won't get flamed her for asking questions, and sharing my opinions.
Thanks also for the link to the badge.
love and light to all!