Being Transgendered and being damned for it

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Permalink Reply by jaymacfee on October 8, 2009 at 11:37pm

I have MANY friends who are outside the so-called "norms". Anyone who even hints that you have no right to exist deserves to should be beaten to a pulp. And if they won't change that stance, I say let them start over on the wheel of life. They cannot seem to learn anything on this one. And, yes, I am a straight white male saying this. I am getting sick and damned tired of the moralistic bull that claims anyone who is different has no right to be. Yeah, I know, now ya want me to stop being so wishy-washy... :)

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Permalink Reply by thundermage on October 9, 2009 at 12:16am

Absolutely! You have A right to exist, just as you wish to be.Despite the thoughts of others,for or against.Stand Proud!

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Permalink Reply by Melissa on October 9, 2009 at 1:24am

no one deserves to be harassed and neither do u sister. everyone was made how they were for a reason and everyone is unique and special.
blessings to you

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Permalink Reply by Oceana Whiteraven on October 9, 2009 at 2:38am

in my opinion, no community should judge you and pagans in my mind should be more tolerant of it than many others, but often get as narrow minded as the communities they tried to escape - but did not move from their mindset.
for some reason, your soul for this lifetime chose this very difficult life, and i hope you have strenth enough to cope with it. you were not given anything by some god who will punish you if you try to change it, but as your soul has chosen to do it you should proceed on how you feel. only thing i don't think is fair is when transsexuals first marry and have kids, and then suddenly decide that they don't wont to be the sex they were born to. that is unless they informed their pertners beforehand and agreed upon it. your partner has to know about it as it's only fair. same goes with gay people.
so yes, you have right to lead your life as you feel is right. you just be careful not to hurt anyone who sould have known it beforehand, and don't let anyone else bother you. people around you need to accept you for what you are, or turn around and leave. those that harass you just show how narrow minded they are.
if you'd condemn people who wish to change their sex because they don't accept what "god" has given them, they might as well condemn all those other plastic surgeries, even the ones that are imho necessary. but no, people react so much worse when it's bout sex. now where all that frustration comes from?
blessings, and wish you have a nice life )O(

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Permalink Reply by Celticwitch on October 9, 2009 at 3:09am

Hun you have every right to share in and be excepted for who you are, I have read a great deal on the trans gender issue and when I read Melanie Phillips diary I was so touched, I cryed for the mistakes mother nature has made and the grief this has rort, welcome my sister. BB

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Permalink Reply by Becca Schiltz on October 12, 2009 at 1:35am

You have as much right as anyone else* but when it comes to judging.. sad thing is we can be our own worst enemy* or best friend*

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Permalink Reply by SIN on October 12, 2009 at 12:03pm

We all get made fun of. Only YOU can allow yourself to be persecuted. People are shitty.

Anytime a TS enters our local pagan community here, the pagans here 'say' they are accepted, then the minute this person turns their back - the daggers go in. People make fun. I mean WTF?

People persecute each other, they find something. Doesn't matter what it is.

I say, hold your head up high - along with your middle finger. Don't live for other people, what they think and how they view the world. Live it for yourself. It's yours.

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Permalink Reply by Rose on October 12, 2009 at 3:20pm

I say, hold your head up high - along with your middle finger.

I second that.

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Permalink Reply by Wiccan AngelFire on October 12, 2009 at 12:07pm

You have every right to exist like anyone else.

I have had a transgendered friend before and I have gay friends. I never once looked at them and thought "You are transgendered.. or you are gay". I look at them without any thought coming into my head like that. I talk to them like everyone else.

Don't let anyone ever make you feel you are not welcome.

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Permalink Reply by Peter R Glidden on October 12, 2009 at 12:26pm

Your sexuality is yours and yours alone, your welcome should not depend upon it but on you as a person. Unfortunately ignorance breeds fear and there will be people who react to you on that basis, all that can be done is to believe in yourself.

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Permalink Reply by SIN on October 12, 2009 at 12:37pm

I don't think it's ignorance, it's more along the lines of, weirdness. You can't control how someone is going to perceive an idea, and react to it. It's 'weird' to people to see an obvious male dressed as a female. Most people know about trans-gender identity but it doesn't mean they accept it, or understand it.

A few years ago, I was on an airplane seated next to two transgendered females. They were seated pretty early on in the flight, so every person who entered the plane after them looked at them and either made a weird face, or giggled as they walked by. Naturally, this bothered the transgendered couple, so they became nasty in return and responded with sarcasm or an emotional comment.

I was seated next to them, so on occasion, as I looked around the plane we caught glances of each other. I would smile politely then go back to my book. Towards the end of the flight, when I looked over I got "Can I help you?" with a nasty attitude. They were looking at me too, so there was really no need for the comment. I understood where it came from (given the things I witnessed earlier) but I don't have to tolerate it. I responded with "keep your panties on sister, no one needs anything from you." This caused people to giggle and comment behind me. Loud enough for many people to hear. Comments like "Why did she call that man Sister, that's a man wearing lipstick" Stuff like that. This got the couple even more frustrated.

My point is, you can't assume people are going to react as you would like them to. They are going to react based on their own feelings about the subject of gender identity.

The issue has more to do with you, and how you handle it than it does other people.

The same thing applies with pagans and their persecution complex.

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Permalink Reply by Celticwitch on October 13, 2009 at 5:07am

I have read "Sin" comment and yes she is so right in saying it is "how you handle it than it does other people". The thing that comes to mind with me and is a basic teaching of Witchcraft, NEVER WALK IN ANYONE'S SHADOW. BB

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