Demonology, are demons real, or projected psychic energy?
I personally think that demons, angels and faeries etc...are real concious entities that are involved in human life. I've been doing some reading that did bring up some good valid theories that demons (or gods or angels for that matter) are projections of human psychic energy that other humans(or animals for that matter) can pick up on... Last night I was studying demonology and practicing an unrelated ritual, I felt a thick dark presence in the back yard that made the hair on the back of my neck and hands stand up. My roomates dog immediately started running in circles and barking, going back and forth to all the corners of the yard. I performed the lesser ritual of the pentagram and I felt the thick dark presence leave...... Any ways has anyone else had any experiences like this or any thoughts?
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Permalink Reply by Psyche on -
No Demons don't exist. To me this is word used by Christians. I believe in Spirits that are not good or evil, they just are. I have a spiritual consort who has been considered a demon and to the Assyrian he was a god, from how I see it he is just a spirit.
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Permalink Reply by Psyche on
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Thats true but I mean the stereotype that consider possessions and exorcisms
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Permalink Reply by Jason Alexander Pruitt Wuerz on
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Well the root of the word goes further back than christianity referencing to the word "Deity" and was no doubt much like Baphomet stigmitized and warped by christians/muslims/whatever religion claims its the only true one. Jinn or genie in the muslim/ middle eastern tounge is a reference to the root word Genius, since many sprits are teachers and can provide information. how do you contact your consort?
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Permalink Reply by Lilitu Xoc on -
Demons comes from the word daemon. Not deity.
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Permalink Reply by Ms.Pouncer-Curiousier&Curiousier on -
Most stories about "haunted houses" are usually haunted by a human spirit, although sometimes such problems in a home or building are caused by offending the spirit of the land, or even just fairies fucking with people.
Also, don't forget the hauntings by 'poltergeist' which have been thought to be the workings of adolescent energy (typically during puberty) in the form of uncontrolled telekenisis ;)
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Permalink Reply by Kixs on -
But would those be considered as demons or just the use of psychic ability?
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Permalink Reply by Kixs on
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egregore's affect people directly, as in influencing them to see or hear things that just aren't there, not the enviroment as a poltergeist does.
Elementals need to use one of the elements, granted wind maybe used to move things about, but I personally don't see poltergiest as a true elemental.
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Permalink Reply by Kixs on
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only a few paths see spirit as part of the orginal elements.
Religiously I see spirit in all things, but there are no demons in my religion.
I guess it would be a personal choice as to whether spirit was considered an element.
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Permalink Reply by Kixs on
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" I also do not believe demons stick around in our world like nature spirits(Such as satyrs). They exist in their own dimensional and cross into ours when summoned by a magickal practitioner for one purpose or another."
Why do you believe that?
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Permalink Reply by Kixs on
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Seems reasonable to me.
I have found that there are many that find us absolutely fasinating and hang out.
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Permalink Reply by Lilitu Xoc on
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*pops fingers*
Ok, Grandior I got some food for thought about Asura vs demons in Asia and in my opinions.
Although with the case of Asura it is translated as "demon", even in Asia. (Mazoku also means evil race.) There seems to be a line between demons and Asura, because at least concerning Japan, there is multiple words for entities that can be translated as demon, but are not mazoku.
This is my thought, when I use the word "demons" I use it to refer to lesser demons or spirits. They can be good, bad, or neutral. These beings are usually created by God or gods, but can also be working for Mazoku. (As well as monsters can be created by Asuras and gods.) I consider fallen angels, spirits such as the Tlaloque, and anthromorphic beings from the otherworld to fall into this category. There's 3 types of these "lesser" demons: 1. The ghosts of human spirits that haunt some ares [though I rarely call ghosts, demons.] 2. The ones mixed as half-animal, half-man 3. Completely non-human ones.
The reasons I separate them from the mazoku (asura) is because the mazoku are a race of beings, some of the higher ranking ones being on par with the gods, and they're usually anti-thesises to the gods. The lesser demons are not usually as powerful as the gods. While demons can have their own hierarchies, Mazoku have hierarchies on par with the gods and they do many of the same things. Mazoku are also born from chaos (Brahman if you will.) too, whereas lesser demons weren't necessarily created directly from chaos. This pits mazoku as part of the "holy" or opposite of holy, the unholy. (Since they're made to cause chaos and destruction.) I find that mazoku consider humans prey and will feed of their negative emotions. Whereas a lesser demon may just reside in the otherworld and cannot come out of it all the time.
I hope that makes some sense.
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