Drugs and Magick

The use of drugs for the purpose of Magck is highly understandable in my eyes.Think about it ' drugs alter a state of higher awareness as they effect both parts of the brain- consious and subconsious.This is basically all you need to make magick - along with knowledge and wisdom ofcourse.I have used cannabis a few times and in my experiences i have seen the entitys which i have invoked.Not as the way they appear in pictures but as the way i picture them without cannabis in my head.Its like the solid image i have of them in my mind has transended into this plane of existence through a viel of somesort.they look see through but they are there.As if the consious and subconsious are jammed together.An opening of the third eye.Call me mad,mental or whatever you want ' i am not a regular user. does anyone else know what i am talking about?

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Permalink Reply by punkypagan on October 27, 2009 at 3:31pm: I find the stance of most pagans on the whole “drug” issue to be a little strange. I wonder how we can discount the millions of spiritual journeys performed by tribal medicine men. It is a dieing art a knowledge that is being striped away by propaganda. The story passed down orally by medicine men in chili tells of the first time coca was discovered. The man who made the discovery was having dreams about the plant and it's spirit before he ever partook of it. The Plant itself showed him how to properly use it (coca for those who don't know is the plant you make cocaine out of) personally I haven't done many illegal substances. I have done lots of drugs caffeine, nicotine, chocolate and many more. Everything affects everything else in some way. Often when plants and other substances are used for spiritual work it is understood that the plant or what have you is lending it's spirit it's life essence to the experience.
I just can't discount this belief just because the western world says these drugs are bad. Of course they can be dangerous if one does not know what they are doing. However, nothing in life comes without danger.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Rose on October 29, 2009 at 2:31pm: I wonder how we can discount the millions of spiritual journeys performed by tribal medicine men.

I am so in agreement with this statement.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Fire Robin on October 27, 2009 at 7:33pm: Try DMT next time.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Astrid Johanna Ulv on October 29, 2009 at 2:06pm: Do any of you smoke tobacco in ritual or enjoy the occasional tobacco pipe? I just want to know!; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Pavlor on October 30, 2009 at 3:29am: I think we've discussed DMT on this forum somewhere:

This looks like a very interesting film:; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Houngan Matt on November 5, 2009 at 5:17pm: Hmm.... I wouldnt use them in my practice, but only in that I view them as a short cut to the mental states training can provide with enough work.

That said, I do admit a massive curiosity towards the entheogens, like salvia divinorum, ayahuasca, and the like. I'd want to make sure I was following proper protocol in using them and havent gotten around to it yet, but the curiosity is there. I doubt I'd add them into my practice, but learning a little more about what it is actually like intrigues me.; ▶ Reply to This