The last few week esespecially,I have been approving many new members with Druid/Druid Pagan as a path. Myself,I have read as much as I can on the Ancient Druids and believe they have and do survive,as who knows how much as been passed down orally? Would any that call themselves DRUIDS care to talk to us or elaborate on the path? As one that follows a Celtic path,I'm indeed interested. Has the traditions survived? Or is it all new and what was thought to be? What are the ties to the Ancient Druids? Somesay "there are no Druids",but clearly many are saying they are.....
Permalink Reply by Níos Sine Dia on "believe they have and do survive"
The facts say otherwise.
Everything that people say was handed down, every "tradition", can easily be traced to the Romantic Revival. The data that is gathered by anthropologist, archaeologist, and etymologist show that what is believed by these "druids" is completely false.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druid#Romanticism_and_modern_revivals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-druidism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_revival
Even Wikipedia calls the revival info to be bull shit.
People will call themselves whatever they like, but in reality, they are Neo-Druids not Druids.
Permalink Reply by Lilitu Xoc on There are a lot of modern druids who have admitted that they are *MODERN* and not ancient. Alas, the ones who claim otherwise are the ones who get more press.
Permalink Reply by Níos Sine Dia on I've maintained that new religions and beliefs are fine.
One should simply not say shit like:
"they have and do survive"
or
I'm a part of an unbroken chain that began in ancient Ireland.
What I've learned is correct, I don't care what you or science says.
etc.
Permalink Reply by Lilitu Xoc on Yes, that's the only problem I have with it.
The show I watched made sure the viewers knew it was a modern spiritual movement and so did the adherents. Although it was one of those Druid groups, and I guess it's a spiritual group so they had a mix back ground of people from a few religions. They did not see it as opposing to be a Christian and a druid.
Permalink Reply by Níos Sine Dia on "They did not see it as opposing to be a Christian and a druid."
It would be though.
One could combine the two, one could use the social order system of the Druids in a Christian faith; doing this would not make one a druid though.
Neo-Duid, Christo-Druid, or Neo-Christo-Druid.
Permalink Reply by Níos Sine Dia on "When you "say handed down and "every tradition " are you referring to European religions?"
I'm referring specifically to Druids, because they all died.
Permalink Reply by Níos Sine Dia on Except that there is no evidence that it survived. In fact, every supposed "surviving part of it" is clearly less than 200 years old.
Show me something that survived.
Prove to me that the whole culture didn't die out.
It's called Burden of Proof.
Permalink Reply by Níos Sine Dia on Whether or not I do, which I actually kind of do*, when people say they blah blah blah from an ancestor or blah blah blah form a past life, it can't go against fact.
Every time I have dissected one of these claims, I can find fault in it. I can point to science to disprove it.
*I do believe in a higher spiritual plane, and a governing force which holds the universe together. I simply don't ascribe human characteristics, I don't think any human could properly grasp or bend this reality, and I don't think someones belief can change reality.
Permalink Reply by Celticlass...FAERIE QUEEN on I talked to three very much alive ones at our Harvest Faire Sat eve.....lol.....
Permalink Reply by Níos Sine Dia on If someone says they are Godzilla, that doesn't make them Godzilla.....lol.....
You are not royalty, for instance.
Permalink Reply by Draig Athar on That there are people who make stuff up is not proof that everyone makes stuff up.
At most you can say there is no readily available information that you have found of an unbroken chain. That doesn't mean it does not exist.
Permalink Reply by Pat Miller on When people only deal with the physical and the logical then they can never understand the non-physical or the illogical. Science is physical (some try to do more) and so much is just not scientifically provable. You just can't prove that my grandpa visits smelling of Dove soap and chewing tobacco. Unbroken chains exist, just not always through a physical means.
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