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Ghosts are just natural sounds.

Then how do we explain what people see.

Simple, infrasound.

Could it be possible that there are no such things as ghosts?

That one's eyes are simply being vibrated by low frequency sounds?

Is it actually impossible to ever discount this phenomenon?

Unless one carries an infrasound detector when they experience a hating, I'd say you can't know that it wasn't simply 18hz shaking your ocular cavity.

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Permalink Reply by Níos Sine Dia on September 18, 2012 at 9:23pm

Why has this never been proven?

As common as they say, at some of these places, these occurrences are, they'd have caught that shit on video.

Take places with security cameras. There is no way there wouldn't be hours of video with all the supposed haunted places.

There are tons of crop circles, they're all bull shit.

Permalink Reply by Malitiose Wildyew on September 18, 2012 at 7:56pm

I'm a skeptic by nature.And this is plausible.But....

I've heard moving sounds(boxes being pushed around in my office),footsteps,and knocks on doors inside the house with no one here.

Speakers in my son's room moved across the room.Again no one here.

Do I believe in ghosts?No.But I can't say they don't exist either.I just can't explain these incidents.

Permalink Reply by Níos Sine Dia on September 18, 2012 at 9:27pm

I'm simply pointing out that in our world, there are more logical explanations.

A provable, testable, common enough occurrence.

We can both agree an invisible force is at hand.

Permalink Reply by Lilitu Xoc on September 24, 2012 at 3:24am

I do think looking at it logically is more sound, most people are quick to jump and scream "GHHHHOOOOOSSSST" when a majority of the time nothing of that nature occured.

Permalink Reply by Níos Sine Dia on September 24, 2012 at 8:13pm

I'm just so sick of the bull shit. There are a dozen ghost hunting shows, people claim every lens flare and dust particle is proof, and people use a bastardized form of science to try to sell these points to everyone else.

At least Wyrd sees the validity in my argument, many on here didn't even read the damn source material. Like the response under these.

Permalink Reply by Lilitu Xoc on September 24, 2012 at 8:29pm

It's one of the reasons I cannot stand Ghost Hunters. I find it incredibly boring and lackluster in any case. The reason the ratings on these shows are so high is because they primarily rely on the viewers' imaginations.

I also think in cases where people need help and they don't help, or make things worse. Such as this one chick on Paranormal State they were trying to exorcise, bitches have no idea what they're doing. She ended up in a hospital anyway. It's as SIN had said about possession "Don't let the untrained touch you.", well it's because they tend to make things worse. There are successful trained people with exorcisms, they're just not on tv.


SponsorPermalink Reply by Fen on September 18, 2012 at 8:09pm

Now Dr. Frankennick, I'm not a scientist so be easy on me...but I didnt think that the eye can feel the low frequency hertz.. and even if it felt it, how does that translate into seeing it...to feel and see are two different senses right....feeling a ghost is usually by the hairs standing up on your arm...Personally I think ghosts dont have the energy they need to really show themselves except on occassion, and thats when we catch glimpses of them...but what energy do they exude to allow us to see them is the question..not so sure its infrasound....

Permalink Reply by Níos Sine Dia on September 18, 2012 at 9:46pm

"I didnt think that the eye can feel the low frequency hertz.. and even if it felt it, how does that translate into seeing it...to feel and see are two different senses right"

Wow, do you not understand the basic science of this explanation.

Your ears don't hear the sound(neither do your eyes). You don't consciously feel this vibration, if you did everyone would notice it.

Here is the NASA link off of that Wiki page, detailing the Science of this:

http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA030476&Location=U2&a...

"feeling a ghost is usually by the hairs standing up on your arm"

This further supports my theory. Hairs standing up is a reaction to danger. We are hardwired to react this way when there is something in the corner(which is what is being described).

"Personally I think ghosts dont have the energy they need to really show themselves except on occassion, and thats when we catch glimpses of them...but what energy do they exude to allow us to see them is the question..not so sure its infrasound...."

See. Catching glimpses of them. This is moments in which, for some reason, infrasound is made.

Infrasound is simply a sound you can't hear, sound bellow your level of hearing.

IF they are at the right frequency, they can vibrate your eye.(this is according to NASA).


SponsorPermalink Reply by Fen on September 19, 2012 at 8:40am

Like I said I'm no scientist...but I do have some stupid questions for the Dr....

"If they are at the right frequency"...what would determine that?  ...."For some reason", what reason?  what other occurrances have to happen to change a frequency? 

When the veil is thin around Halloween and Beltaine, what environmental (or other) change occurs to allow us to see spirits more at that time then anyother time of year?     

Permalink Reply by Níos Sine Dia on September 23, 2012 at 9:36pm

""If they are at the right frequency"...what would determine that?"

What do you mean?

A fan of a certain mass and shape spinning at a certain speed will create a certain frequency. A gust of wind, at an exact strength, hitting a dividing wall at a 45 degree angle produces infrasound of a certain frequency.

A cats purr contains infrasound, on top of the purr you hear there is the sound you don't hear.

It has also been suggested that birds can create these sounds.

Animals don't always make the same sound, send off the same warning.

Wind is not a constant.

""For some reason", what reason?  what other occurrances have to happen to change a frequency?"

The occurrences, can be affected by many factors:

Infrasound is being generated at a specific place, due to nesting birds outside. On this day, however, the humidity is too high, and the sound waves are distorted to be outside of the range that effects the eye.

Infrasound is being generated by an alligator a quarter of a mile away from a "haunted house". On this day, however, the wind is cutting over the pond in the opposite direction. The sound is not heard.

Our world is filled with variables.

"When the veil is thin around Halloween and Beltaine, what environmental (or other) change occurs to allow us to see spirits more at that time then anyother time of year?"


The power of suggestion. You are simply more likely to think you are seeing/contacting ghosts.

Unless you document a case, while holding an infrasound detector, you leave yourself open to skepticism.

Permalink Reply by Ms.Pouncer-Curiousier&Curiousier on September 25, 2012 at 12:53pm

I have a theory to answer Fen: 

The environmental changes that occur during these times of the year would be the thinning of the trees (more open air space) and a dying off of nature. In May (Beltaine) we again experience a change in the amount of life (energy) around us.

In short, my answer is the rate of the production of life and death...

(just a theory...)

Permalink Reply by Keraon Agathos on September 25, 2012 at 7:48pm

The "veil" being thin around Halloween and Beltaine is a cultural belief, and not shared by cultures that do not observe the Celtic-based holidays of "Halloween" and "Beltaine". 

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