I was wondering what people consider an Elder. For me I am 41 and consider myself one. I have been maiden, mother, and now crone. What are your thoughts?
Thanks
Mystikal Summer Starr
Well 34 and 13 years in this life...but before that I was the high priest of so and so and before that the grand puba of so and so....and before that christ said hi...
Permalink Reply by Noli on November 6, 2009 at 8:24pm
I don't think that women should cut themselves short. I won't go from mother straight to crone, i'm gonna spend a bit of time just being a woman. I was maiden, carefree...footloose and fancy free flying by the seat of my pants figuring out who I was and what I wanted. Then I was mother and still am. I learn more about me through my lovely daughter, she is maiden. I will consider her my motherly obligation until she is old enough to take care of herself. That'll make me about 44 years old, a FAR cry from crone. It'll be the first time in many years that i'm back where I was when I was a maiden. Back to where I live for ME and not ENTIRELY for others. The only difference is that i'll have years of experience I didn't have as a maiden. As a maiden I had much knowledge, now it will be knowledge applied....wisdom. I will live with wisdom for a time. I will remember who I am, I will know new parts of me, I will discard certain old parts of me. I will grow better and stronger as a woman...then, I will become crone. Well adjusted and ready for the shift. Rocking away on my front porch surrounded by cats, shotgun across my lap my cabin in the woods will be the one kids dare eachother to run up to and touch in the dark of night. People will pretend that they don't know me when they see me in town or selling lotion and soap at the local market but they will make a well worn trail to my home to get their potions and notions and spells or even just advice. Read your palm?
Permalink Reply by Char on November 6, 2009 at 9:12pm
I thought long and hard about giving my opinion here, so this is what I think, for what it's worth. An elder is someone who has lived though very tough times and has come out with a meaning for why the things that have happened have occurred. It does not mean they know it all, nor do they say they do. They offer their opinions carefully and take time in uncovering the meaning to things as they see it. Does it make them right? No. Does it make them wrong? No. I shows that they have certain insight as to what might be going on as they have lived a while and suffered loss. I don't think any one can call themselves an elder if life has always gone their way. An elder suffers and suffers some more so that he/she can decipher the hurt and anguish and choose the path that they must follow. An elder can be any age.. An elder can teach. we can learn from anyone as long as we are open to hear what they have to say.
I can hear what you are saying loud and clear. I have may bad things that have happened one include a loss of a child when she was 7. She would be 23 now.
Mystikal
I've always said "age doesn't always bring wisdom.Sometimes it comes alone.Many Tibetan leaders have been children.I would have to say possible past lives,,current wisdom, and insight are just as important factors.