Jane Burgermiester Files Criminal Charges, UN,WHO,HLS,FEMA,Obama, Evidence of the use of Pandemic Flu to depopulate USA
Update Oct 22/09
Now in France we have more criminal charges filed
http://www.fightbackh1n1.com/2009/09/h1n1-swine-flu-criminal-charge...
H1N1 Swine Flu : Criminal charges filed in France over secret forced mass vaccination plan
H1N1 Swine Flu : Criminal charges filed in France over secret forced mass vaccination plan
Paris : Criminal charges have been filed in France against the French Health Minister Roselyne Bachelot-Narquin, the Interior Minister Brice Hortefeux and the Minister of Justice Madame Michèle Alliot-Marie for their role in preparing, in secret, a forced "swine flu" mass vaccination campaign starting in September 2009, and also for depriving the people of France of their fundamental civic rights by imposing martial law under the pretext of a pandemic emergency level 6 declaration issued by WHO.
The charges specifically allege that the group have :
- violated laws against the fundamental interests of the nation (Article 412-1 of the penal code) by declaring a pandemic level emergency without adequate justification in order to trigger provisions in the national pandemic plan that give WHO and the UN extraordinary powers over the French law enforcement and health services.
- violated laws on a conspiracy against the fundamental interests of the nation (Article 412-2) by conspiring in secret to put in place legislationt that will allow for the forced vaccination of the people of France with a toxic and untested substance.
- violated laws on medical experiments on people without their consent (Article 223-8) by planning to adminster an untested substance to the people of France by force in special vaccine centers.
- violated laws on treason by handing over all or part of the national territoriy to belligerent powers (Article 411-2) by activating pandemic level 6 laws that have resulted in key functions in the French government to have been handed over to a special „crisis committee“ set up in April on the authority of WHO’s International Health Regulations 2005 and which answers to WHO.
- violated laws on the crime of preparing to commit mass murder in an association of conspirators (Article 450-1) by planning to administer toxic „swine flu“ jabs which leading expert Dr Marc Girard has said could kill 60,000 people in the country.
The criminal charges were filed in Creteil, a suburb of Paris, and also in Paris at the State Prosecutor’s office.
The legal procedure in France – and much of Europe, also Austria – is that a state prosecutor reviews criminal charges, and if he or she decides there is enough evidence to indicate a violation of criminal laws, he or she orders a police investigation, as happened in Austria when I filed charges in April against Baxter for contaminating 72 kilos of vaccine material with the live bird flu virus, supplied by WHO.
Here is a copy of the start of the charges in French. The full document can be downloaded here (Word) or here (pdf).
I can't believe it. I just happen upon this video on you tube, some one took the time to put it all together, very clever. this tells all about the Burgermiester charges,with a special flare, lol or you can read all the information, follow all the links, watch the other videos.
this is actually a collimation of many suspicious things most people have saw going on over the years under Bush, and Clinton it takes years of planing and implementation by the elite to pull off there evil plane
there are two other videos directly under this one they are from a different source, not related to Burgermiester
Criminal charges filed against Obama WHO and UN for Bioterrorism/Intent to Commit Mass Murder pt I
Will WHO Mandate a "Swine Flu" Vaccine?
this is up dated information July 16/ 09 don't miss this warning
possible mandatory flu shots are more likely then not, watch the new videos
and go to the web site and sign the petition to enforce your right to say no.
the Government has taken away that right with it's pact with the W.H.O.
I tried to point out to you all, the shots have been proven to be deadly.
oh yeah don't listen to me I'm a paranoid nut case.
I got this news letter in my email today, July 17/09 from Natural Solution Foundation
Spooky stuff for the easily freaked out type. lol
http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=3099
Latest - Journalist Files
BioTerrorism Charges
Against WHO
From Alan Cantwell MD
6-28-9
Jane Burgermeister indicts flu vaccine mfgrs the WHO, HLS, FEMA, Obama1
- Here is more on the story plus a document...
http://www.rense.com/general86/lat.htm
Fwd: Journalist Files Charges against WHO and UN for Bioterrorism and Intent to Commit Mass Murder
Here is the 173 page word Word document (june 10, 2009)...
Here is a list of the "contents"
Submitted: FBI OFFICER
EMBASSY OF THE UNITED STATES
Boltzmanngasse 16
A-1090 Vienna
Austria
Date: June 10, 2009
Contents
I. Introduction: Summary of Claims
II. Factual Background
III. Evidence the "swine flu" vaccines are bioweapons
IV. Scientific evidence the "swine flu" virus is an artificial (genetically engineered) virus.
V. Scientific evidence the "swine flu" was bioengineered to resemble the Spanish flu killer virus of 1918.
VI. Genome sequence of the "swine flu"
VII. Evidence as to deliberate release of the "swine flu" virus in Mexico
VIII. Evidence as to the involvement of President Obama
IX. Evidence as to the role of Baxter and WHO in producing and releasing pandemic virus material in Austria.
X. Evidence Baxter is an element in a covert bioweapons network.
XI. Evidence Baxter has deliberately contamined drugs.
XII. Evidence Novartis is using vaccines as bioweapons.
XIII. Evidence as to the WHO's role in the bioweapons program: supplier of the bird flu virus to Baxter
XIV. Evidence as to WHO's manipulation of disease data in order to justify declaring a Pandemic Level 6 in order to seize control of the USA.
XV. Evidence as to FDA's role in covering up the bioweapons program
XVI. Evidence as to the Canada's National Microbiology Labs role in the bioweapons program
XVI. Evidence of the involvement of scientists working for the UK's NIBSC, and the CDC in engineering the swine flu.
XVII. Evidence vaccinations caused the Spanish killer flu of 1918.
XVIII. Precedents: the abandoned swine flu mass vaccination program of 1976
XIX. Inadequate performance of the government in stopping the spread of the swine flu as cover for spreading a pandemic
XX. Evidence as to manipulation of the legal framework to allow mass murder with impunity
XXII. Constitutional issues: the legality v. Illegality of jeopardising the Life, health and "public good" by mass vaccinations
XXI. The Issue of immunity and compensation as evidence of intent to commit a crime
XXII. Evidence as to the use of chemtrails for population reduction
XXIII. Evidence as to the existence of an international corporate crime syndicate
XXIV. Evidence as to the existence of the "Illuminati"
XXV. Evidence of the Illuminati's involvement in the current collapse of the world's financial system
XXVI. Evidence as to the depopulation agenda of the Illuminati/Bilderbergs and their involvement in the engineering and release of the artificial "swine flu" virus
XXVII. Evidence as to the Genocide Agenda by means of Weaponised Flu being discussed at the annual Bilderberg meeting in Athens from May 14-17, 2009
XXXVIII. Conclusion
XXIX. Defendants
XXX. Attachments
http://birdflew.wordpress.com/ I went to this blog of Jane Burgermiester, but it's been pulled, I'm not surprised!!!
as many you tube vids are blocked by the Government, as well to keep us in the dark on other important matters.
If I remember right the 1918 killer Flu, the first time it went around it was like this flu, we are experiencing, but then when it came back in the fall, it mutated into the killer flu.
Our scientist did go to Alaska and they dug up an Eskimo that was preserved in the permafrost, they took out the lungs and resurrected the deadly flu, old history!
Don't believe it do a search.
I'm not saying this is that flu? but It could be. is our Government beyond such practices, history says, HELL NO!
Yes Jane is saying the flu is deadly the Baxter vaccine,is contaminated, Baxter has been caught before, putting live flu and the Aids virus in vaccines, of course never punished, it was swept under the rug, as usual by the ones that be.
But it has been confirmed the flu that started in Mexico, was made in a lab, and it is suspected it was deliberately released.
That was pretty obvious, at the time Mexico was having a war between the drug cartel and in the states Patriots were picketing all over the USA, the flu scare stopped all that.
we all just want to know whats going on, what does Jane know that we don't know?
I have ignored a lot of other story's about this flu, but this person has filed criminal charges and this is too important to ignore.
I have to add, does this give any one an AH HA moment, like, no wonder they have been digging mass graves! No wonder FEMA is stocking up on gazillions of plastic coffins. and when people riot, well no wonder FEMA contracted Helliberton to build over 600 concentration camps in the good old USA
if you have any confirmed information or a copy of the charges, please jump in and add the information.
Journalist Files Charges against WHO and UN for Bioterrorism and Intent to Commit Mass Murder
http://www.naturalnews.com/026503_pandemic_swine_flu_bioterrorism.html
(NaturalNews) As the anticipated July release date for Baxter's A/H1N1 flu pandemic vaccine approaches, an Austrian investigative journalist is warning the world that the greatest crime in the history of humanity is underway. Jane Burgermeister has recently filed criminal charges with the FBI against the World Health Organization (WHO), the United Nations (UN), and several of the highest ranking government and corporate officials concerning bioterrorism and attempts to commit mass murder. She has also prepared an injunction against forced vaccination which is being filed in America. These actions follow her charges filed in April against Baxter AG and Avir Green Hills Biotechnology of Austria for producing contaminated bird flu vaccine, alleging this was a deliberate act to cause and profit from a pandemic.
Summary of claims and allegations filed with FBI in Austria on June 10, 2009
In her charges, Burgermeister presents evidence of acts of bioterrorism that is in violation of U.S. law by a group operating within the U.S. under the direction of international bankers who control the Federal Reserve, as well as WHO, UN and NATO. This bioterrorism is for the purpose of carrying out a mass genocide against the U.S. population by use of a genetically engineered flu pandemic virus with the intent of causing death. This group has annexed high government offices in the U.S.
Specifically, evidence is presented that the defendants, Barack Obama, President of the U.S, David Nabarro, UN System Coordinator for Influenza, Margaret Chan, Director-General of WHO, Kathleen Sibelius, Secretary of Department of Health and Human Services, Janet Napolitano, Secretary of Department of Homeland Security, David de Rotschild, banker, David Rockefeller, banker, George Soros, banker, Werner Faymann, Chancellor of Austria, and Alois Stoger, Austrian Health Minister, among others, are part of this international corporate criminal syndicate which has developed, produced, stockpiled and employed biological weapons to eliminate the population of the U.S. and other countries for financial and political gain.
The charges contend that these defendants conspired with each other and others to devise, fund and participate in the final phase of the implementation of a covert international bioweapons program involving the pharmaceutical companies Baxter and Novartis. They did this by bioengineering and then releasing lethal biological agents, specifically the "bird flu" virus and the "swine flu virus" in order to have a pretext to implement a forced mass vaccination program which would be the means of administering a toxic biological agent to cause death and injury to the people of the U.S. This action is in direct violation of the Biological Weapons Anti-terrorism Act.
Burgermeister's charges include evidence that Baxter AG, Austrian subsidiary of Baxter International, deliberately sent out 72 kilos of live bird flu virus, supplied by the WHO in the winter of 2009 to 16 laboratories in four counties. She claims this evidence offers clear proof that the pharmaceutical companies and international government agencies themselves are actively engaged in producing, developing, manufacturing and distributing biological agents classified as the most deadly bioweapons on earth in order to trigger a pandemic and cause mass death.
In her April charges, she noted that Baxter's lab in Austria, one of the supposedly most secure biosecurity labs in the world, did not adhere to the most basic and essential steps to keep 72 kilos of a pathogen classified as a bioweapon secure and separate from all other substances under stringent biosecurity level regulations, but it allowed it to be mixed with the ordinary human flu virus and sent from its facilities in Orth in the Donau.
In February, when a staff member at BioTest in the Czech Republic tested the material meant for candidate vaccines on ferrets, the ferrets died. This incident was not followed up by any investigation from the WHO, EU, or Austrian health authorities. There was no investigation of the content of the virus material, and there is no data on the genetic sequence of the virus released.
In answer to parliamentary questions on May 20th, the Austrian Health Minister, Alois Stoger, revealed that the incident had been handled not as a biosecurity lapse, as it should have been, but as an offence against the veterinary code. A veterinary doctor was sent to the lab for a brief inspection.
Burgermeister's dossier reveals that the release of the virus was to be an essential step for triggering a pandemic that would allow the WHO to declare a Level 6 Pandemic. She lists the laws and decrees that would allow the UN and WHO to take over the United States in the event of pandemic. In addition, legislation requiring compliance with mandatory vaccinations would be put into force in the U.S. under conditions of pandemic declaration.
She charges that the entire "swine flu" pandemic business is premised on a massive lie that there is no natural virus out there that poses a threat to the population. She presents evidence leading to the belief that the bird flu and swine flu viruses have, in fact, been bioengineered in laboratories using funding supplied by the WHO and other government agencies, among others. This "swine flu" is a hybrid of part swine flu, part human flu and part bird flu, something that can only come from laboratories according to many experts.
WHO's claim that this "swine flu" is spreading and a pandemic must be declared ignores the fundamental causes. The viruses that were released were created and released with the help of WHO, and WHO is overwhelmingly responsible for the pandemic in the first place. In addition, the symptoms of the supposed "swine flu" are indistinguishable from regular flu or from the common cold. The "swine flu" does not cause death anymore often than the regular flu causes death.
Burgermeister notes that the figures for deaths reported for the "swine flu" are inconsistent and there is no clarity as to how the number of "deaths" has been documented.
There is no pandemic potential unless mass vaccinations are carried out to weaponize the flu under the guise of protecting the population. There are reasonable grounds for believing that the mandatory vaccines will be purposely contaminated with diseases that are specifically designed to cause death.
Reference is made to a licensed Novartis bird flu vaccine that killed 21 homeless people in Poland in the summer of 2008 and had as its "primary outcome measure" an "adverse events rate", thereby meeting the U.S. government's own definition of a bioweapon (a biological agent designed to cause an adverse events rate, i.e death or injury) with a delivery system (injection).
She alleges that the same complex of international pharmaceutical companies and international government agencies that have developed and released pandemic material have positioned themselves to profit from triggering the pandemic with contracts to supply vaccines. Media controlled by the group that is engineering the "swine flu" agenda is spreading misinformation to lull the people of the U.S. into taking the dangerous vaccine.
The people of the U.S. will suffer substantial and irreparable harm and injury if they are forced to take this unproven vaccine without their consent in accordance with the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act, National Emergency Act, National Security Presidential Directive/NSPD 51, Homeland Security Presidential Directive/HSPD-20, and the International Partnership on Avian and Pandemic Influenza.
In the U.S. since 2008, Burgermeister charges that those named in her allegations have implemented new and/or accelerated the implementation of laws and regulations designed to strip the citizens of the U.S. of their lawful constitutional rights to refuse an injection. These people have created or allowed provisions to remain in place that make it a criminal act to refuse to take an injection against pandemic viruses. They have imposed other excessive and cruel penalties such as imprisonment and/or quarantine in FEMA camps while barring the citizens of the U.S. from claiming compensation from injury or death from the forced injections. This is in violation of the laws governing federal corruption and the abuse of office as well as of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Through these actions, the named defendants have laid the groundwork for mass genocide.
Using the "swine flu" as a pretext, the defendants have preplanned the mass murder of the U.S. population by means of forced vaccination. They have installed an extensive network of FEMA concentration camps and identified mass grave sites, and they have been involved in devising and implementing a scheme to hand power over the U.S. to an international crime syndicate that uses the UN and WHO as a front for illegal racketeering influenced organized crime activities, in violation of the laws that govern treason.
She further charges that the complex of pharmaceutical companies consisting of Baxter, Novartis and Sanofi Aventis are part of a foreign-based dual purpose bioweapons program, financed by this international criminal syndicate and designed to implement mass murder to reduce the world's population by more than 5 billion people in the next ten years. Their plan is to spread terror to justify forcing people to give up their rights, and to force mass quarantine in FEMA camps. The houses, companies and farms and lands of those who are killed will be up for grabs by this syndicate.
By eliminating the population of North America, the international elite gain access to the region's natural resources such as water and undeveloped oil lands. And by eliminating the U.S. and its democratic constitution by subsuming it under a North American Union, the international crime group will have total control over North America.
Highlights from the complete dossier
The complete dossier of the June 10th action is a 69 page document presenting evidence to substantiate all charges. This includes:
Factual background that delineates time lines and facts that establish probable cause, UN and WHO definitions and roles, and history and incidents from the April, 2009 "swine flu" outbreak.
Evidence the "swine flu" vaccines are defined as bioweapons as delineates in government agencies and regulations classifying and restricting vaccines, and the fear of foreign countries that "swine flu" vaccines will be used for biological warfare.
Scientific evidence the "swine flu" virus is an artificial (genetic) virus.
Scientific evidence the "swine flu" was bioengineered to resemble the Spanish flu virus of 1918 including quotes from Swine Flu 2009 is Weaponized 1918 Spanish Flu by A. True Ott, Ph.D., N.D., and a Science Magazine report from Dr. Jeffrey Taubenberger et.al.
The genome sequence of the "swine flu"
Evidence of the deliberate release of the "swine flu" in Mexico
Evidence as to the involvement of President Obama that delineates his trip to Mexico which coincided with the recent "swine flu" outbreak and the death of several officials involved in his trip. Contention is made that the President was never tested for "swine flu" because he had been previously vaccinated.
Evidence as to the role of Baxter and WHO in producing and releasing pandemic virus material in Austria includes a statement from a Baxter official stating the accidentally distributed H5N1 in the Czech Republic was received from a WHO reference center. This includes delineation of evidence and allegations from Burgermeister's charges filed in April in Austria that are currently under investigation.
Evidence Baxter is an element in a covert bioweapons network
Evidence Baxter has deliberately contaminated vaccine material.
Evidence Novartis is using vaccines as bioweapons
Evidence as to WHO's role in the bioweapons program
Evidence as to WHO's manipulation of disease data in order to justify declaring a Pandemic Level 6 in order to seize control of the USA.
Evidence as to the FDA's role in covering up the bioweapons program
Evidence as to Canada's National Microbiology Lab's role in the bioweapons program.
Evidence of the involvement of scientists working for the UK's NIBSC, and the CDC in engineering the "swine flu".
Evidence vaccinations caused the Spanish killer flu of 1918 including belief of Dr. Jerry Tennant that the widespread use of aspirin during the winter that followed the end of World War I could have been a key factor contributing to the earlier pandemic by suppressing the immune system and lowering body temperatures, allowing the flu virus to multiply. Tamiflu and Relenza also lower body temperatures, and therefore can also be expected to contribute to the spread of a pandemic.
Evidence as to manipulation of the legal framework to allow mass murder with impunity.
Constitutional issues: the legality vs. illegality of jeopardizing the life, health and public good by mass vaccinations.
The issue of immunity and compensation as evidence of intent to commit a crime.
Evidence as to the existence of an international corporate crime syndicate.
Evidence of the existence of the "Illuminati".
Evidence as to the depopulation agenda of the Illuminati/Bilderbergs and their involvement in the engineering and release of the artificial "swine flu" virus.
Evidence that weaponized flu was discussed at the annual Bilderberg meeting in Athens from May 14-17, 2009, as part of their agenda of genocide, including a list of attendees who, according to a statement once made by Pierre Trudeau, view themselves as genetically superior to the rest of humanity.
Media is keeping Americans clueless about the threat they are under
Jane Burgermeister is a dual Irish/Austrian who has written for Nature, the British Medical Journal, and American Prospect. She is the European Correspondent of the Renewable Energy World website. She has written extensively about climate change, biotechnology, and the ecology.
In addition to the charges currently under investigation that she filed against Baxter AG and Avir Green Hills Biotechnology in April, she has filed charges against WHO and Baxter among others concerning a case of exploding "swine flu" vials meant for a research lab on a busy IC train in Switzerland.
In her view, control of the media by the ruling elite has allowed the world crime syndicate to further its agenda unabated while the rest of the people remain in the dark about what is really going on. Her charges are an attempt to get around this media control and bring the truth to light.
Her greatest concern is that "in spite of the fact Baxter has been caught red handed nearly triggering pandemic, they are also moving ahead, together with allied pharma companies, with supplying the vaccine for pandemics." Baxter is hurrying to get this vaccine to market some time in July.
For more information:
http://www.naturalnews.com/025760.html
http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/200...
http://in.news.yahoo.com/137/200906...
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...
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Friday, July 10, 2009
Mandatory Swine Flu Vaccinations This Fall?
Swine flu fearmongering is increasing in its intensity the closer we get to fall, which is the timeframe earmarked for the production and potential mandatory distribution of vaccines which may not even properly fight the virus.
Despite the fact that swine flu has killed far fewer people globally than the common flu virus since it was first discovered in April, media scare stories about H1N1 “epidemics” are becoming more and more frequent.
A death toll in Britain of 14, every one of whom had underlying health problems to begin with, has prompted fearmongering headlines despite the fact that the 1999-2000 seasonal flu outbreak affected more people. Add to this the fact that doctors are treating swathes of ordinary flu sufferers as swine flu cases and the exaggerated paranoia is plain to see.
Reuters reports today that the World Health Organization will “issue guidance about the need for a H1N1 influenza jab” during a press conference later today or on Monday. Meanwhile, the U.S. government has put states on notice that swine flu vaccinations will begin in October.
“Swine flu may have faded from the headlines but it’s still sickening people here and abroad and is certain to worsen when influenza-friendly fall temperatures arrive. The federal government called together health and education officials from every state to check their preparations for the likely prospect of vaccinations and determine how they’ll handle flu-riddled schools,” reports USA Today.
Preparations are clearly being geared towards a mass rollout of the swine flu vaccine, in other words, a mandatory distribution. Time Magazine has been dutifully preparing Americans to accept this premise, reporting on April 28th that a mass vaccination program is being readied to combat swine flu while also urging Americans to “trust that the government is working for the greater good” and to not resist draconian measures.
The question is, what will happen to the millions of people around the world who will reject the notion that the government can order someone to stick a needle in your arm by force?
A concerned citizen called the the Arkansas State Health Department for advice on what he could do to opt out of the vaccine only to be told that mandatory vaccines were constitutional and could be enforced at gunpoint by the government if necessary.
One of his main concerns centered around the fact that the company chosen to mass produce the swine flu vaccine, Baxter International, were recently caught in a scandal after it emerged they had sent out vaccines contaminated with the H5N1 avian flu virus to 18 countries from their Austrian branch. It was only by providence that the contamination was found after the batch was first tested on ferrets in the Czech Republic, before being shipped out for injection into humans. The ferrets all died and the shocking discovery was made.
Some Czech newspapers speculated at the time that Baxter was embroiled in a conspiracy to provoke a pandemic from which it would reap billions in profits from producing the vaccine to counter a bird flu outbreak.
As we have previously covered, the last time the government ordered a mass vaccination drive in response to a swine flu outbreak, the program had to be stopped short after the shots caused over 500 cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome, a severe paralyzing nerve disease. 30 people died as a direct result of the vaccinations.
As with every flu virus, the particular strain of swine flu currently circulating the globe will inevitably mutate and change, and indeed there is evidence to suggest that this is already taking place – so how on earth could vaccines be a fix all cure unless multiple vaccines produced on an annual basis were distributed?
Ahhhh….now we’re beginning to see the full picture.
Since the corporate media is owned by the same interests that control the pharmaceutical companies, who by the way will stand to profit in the billions and even trillions if a policy of mandatory vaccination is enforced, it is no wonder why the fearmongering is intensifying as we draw closer to the timeframe that officials promised us all along would mark the return of swine flu with a vengeance – along with the mass rollout of vaccines that some people will be less enthusiastic about than others.
Different Charges Filed, Somethings going on!
OBAMA - CHARGES FILED AGAINST WHO World Health Organization & UN the United Nations AND OBAMA 1/2
Now in France we have more criminal charges filed
http://www.fightbackh1n1.com/2009/09/h1n1-swine-flu-criminal-charge...
H1N1 Swine Flu : Criminal charges filed in France over secret forced mass vaccination plan
H1N1 Swine Flu : Criminal charges filed in France over secret forced mass vaccination plan
Paris : Criminal charges have been filed in France against the French Health Minister Roselyne Bachelot-Narquin, the Interior Minister Brice Hortefeux and the Minister of Justice Madame Michèle Alliot-Marie for their role in preparing, in secret, a forced "swine flu" mass vaccination campaign starting in September 2009, and also for depriving the people of France of their fundamental civic rights by imposing martial law under the pretext of a pandemic emergency level 6 declaration issued by WHO.
The charges specifically allege that the group have :
- violated laws against the fundamental interests of the nation (Article 412-1 of the penal code) by declaring a pandemic level emergency without adequate justification in order to trigger provisions in the national pandemic plan that give WHO and the UN extraordinary powers over the French law enforcement and health services.
- violated laws on a conspiracy against the fundamental interests of the nation (Article 412-2) by conspiring in secret to put in place legislationt that will allow for the forced vaccination of the people of France with a toxic and untested substance.
- violated laws on medical experiments on people without their consent (Article 223-8) by planning to adminster an untested substance to the people of France by force in special vaccine centers.
- violated laws on treason by handing over all or part of the national territoriy to belligerent powers (Article 411-2) by activating pandemic level 6 laws that have resulted in key functions in the French government to have been handed over to a special „crisis committee“ set up in April on the authority of WHO’s International Health Regulations 2005 and which answers to WHO.
- violated laws on the crime of preparing to commit mass murder in an association of conspirators (Article 450-1) by planning to administer toxic „swine flu“ jabs which leading expert Dr Marc Girard has said could kill 60,000 people in the country.
The criminal charges were filed in Creteil, a suburb of Paris, and also in Paris at the State Prosecutor’s office.
The legal procedure in France – and much of Europe, also Austria – is that a state prosecutor reviews criminal charges, and if he or she decides there is enough evidence to indicate a violation of criminal laws, he or she orders a police investigation, as happened in Austria when I filed charges in April against Baxter for contaminating 72 kilos of vaccine material with the live bird flu virus, supplied by WHO.
Here is a copy of the start of the charges in French. The full document can be downloaded here (Word) or here (pdf).
I can't believe it. I just happen upon this video on you tube, some one took the time to put it all together, very clever. this tells all about the Burgermiester charges,with a special flare, lol or you can read all the information, follow all the links, watch the other videos.
this is actually a collimation of many suspicious things most people have saw going on over the years under Bush, and Clinton it takes years of planing and implementation by the elite to pull off there evil plane
there are two other videos directly under this one they are from a different source, not related to Burgermiester
Criminal charges filed against Obama WHO and UN for Bioterrorism/Intent to Commit Mass Murder pt I
Will WHO Mandate a "Swine Flu" Vaccine?
this is up dated information July 16/ 09 don't miss this warning
possible mandatory flu shots are more likely then not, watch the new videos
and go to the web site and sign the petition to enforce your right to say no.
the Government has taken away that right with it's pact with the W.H.O.
I tried to point out to you all, the shots have been proven to be deadly.
oh yeah don't listen to me I'm a paranoid nut case.
I got this news letter in my email today, July 17/09 from Natural Solution Foundation
Spooky stuff for the easily freaked out type. lol
http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=3099
Latest - Journalist Files
BioTerrorism Charges
Against WHO
From Alan Cantwell MD
6-28-9
Jane Burgermeister indicts flu vaccine mfgrs the WHO, HLS, FEMA, Obama1
- Here is more on the story plus a document...
http://www.rense.com/general86/lat.htm
Fwd: Journalist Files Charges against WHO and UN for Bioterrorism and Intent to Commit Mass Murder
Here is the 173 page word Word document (june 10, 2009)...
Here is a list of the "contents"
Submitted: FBI OFFICER
EMBASSY OF THE UNITED STATES
Boltzmanngasse 16
A-1090 Vienna
Austria
Date: June 10, 2009
Contents
I. Introduction: Summary of Claims
II. Factual Background
III. Evidence the "swine flu" vaccines are bioweapons
IV. Scientific evidence the "swine flu" virus is an artificial (genetically engineered) virus.
V. Scientific evidence the "swine flu" was bioengineered to resemble the Spanish flu killer virus of 1918.
VI. Genome sequence of the "swine flu"
VII. Evidence as to deliberate release of the "swine flu" virus in Mexico
VIII. Evidence as to the involvement of President Obama
IX. Evidence as to the role of Baxter and WHO in producing and releasing pandemic virus material in Austria.
X. Evidence Baxter is an element in a covert bioweapons network.
XI. Evidence Baxter has deliberately contamined drugs.
XII. Evidence Novartis is using vaccines as bioweapons.
XIII. Evidence as to the WHO's role in the bioweapons program: supplier of the bird flu virus to Baxter
XIV. Evidence as to WHO's manipulation of disease data in order to justify declaring a Pandemic Level 6 in order to seize control of the USA.
XV. Evidence as to FDA's role in covering up the bioweapons program
XVI. Evidence as to the Canada's National Microbiology Labs role in the bioweapons program
XVI. Evidence of the involvement of scientists working for the UK's NIBSC, and the CDC in engineering the swine flu.
XVII. Evidence vaccinations caused the Spanish killer flu of 1918.
XVIII. Precedents: the abandoned swine flu mass vaccination program of 1976
XIX. Inadequate performance of the government in stopping the spread of the swine flu as cover for spreading a pandemic
XX. Evidence as to manipulation of the legal framework to allow mass murder with impunity
XXII. Constitutional issues: the legality v. Illegality of jeopardising the Life, health and "public good" by mass vaccinations
XXI. The Issue of immunity and compensation as evidence of intent to commit a crime
XXII. Evidence as to the use of chemtrails for population reduction
XXIII. Evidence as to the existence of an international corporate crime syndicate
XXIV. Evidence as to the existence of the "Illuminati"
XXV. Evidence of the Illuminati's involvement in the current collapse of the world's financial system
XXVI. Evidence as to the depopulation agenda of the Illuminati/Bilderbergs and their involvement in the engineering and release of the artificial "swine flu" virus
XXVII. Evidence as to the Genocide Agenda by means of Weaponised Flu being discussed at the annual Bilderberg meeting in Athens from May 14-17, 2009
XXXVIII. Conclusion
XXIX. Defendants
XXX. Attachments
http://birdflew.wordpress.com/ I went to this blog of Jane Burgermiester, but it's been pulled, I'm not surprised!!!
as many you tube vids are blocked by the Government, as well to keep us in the dark on other important matters.
If I remember right the 1918 killer Flu, the first time it went around it was like this flu, we are experiencing, but then when it came back in the fall, it mutated into the killer flu.
Our scientist did go to Alaska and they dug up an Eskimo that was preserved in the permafrost, they took out the lungs and resurrected the deadly flu, old history!
Don't believe it do a search.
I'm not saying this is that flu? but It could be. is our Government beyond such practices, history says, HELL NO!
Yes Jane is saying the flu is deadly the Baxter vaccine,is contaminated, Baxter has been caught before, putting live flu and the Aids virus in vaccines, of course never punished, it was swept under the rug, as usual by the ones that be.
But it has been confirmed the flu that started in Mexico, was made in a lab, and it is suspected it was deliberately released.
That was pretty obvious, at the time Mexico was having a war between the drug cartel and in the states Patriots were picketing all over the USA, the flu scare stopped all that.
we all just want to know whats going on, what does Jane know that we don't know?
I have ignored a lot of other story's about this flu, but this person has filed criminal charges and this is too important to ignore.
I have to add, does this give any one an AH HA moment, like, no wonder they have been digging mass graves! No wonder FEMA is stocking up on gazillions of plastic coffins. and when people riot, well no wonder FEMA contracted Helliberton to build over 600 concentration camps in the good old USA
if you have any confirmed information or a copy of the charges, please jump in and add the information.
Journalist Files Charges against WHO and UN for Bioterrorism and Intent to Commit Mass Murder
http://www.naturalnews.com/026503_pandemic_swine_flu_bioterrorism.html
(NaturalNews) As the anticipated July release date for Baxter's A/H1N1 flu pandemic vaccine approaches, an Austrian investigative journalist is warning the world that the greatest crime in the history of humanity is underway. Jane Burgermeister has recently filed criminal charges with the FBI against the World Health Organization (WHO), the United Nations (UN), and several of the highest ranking government and corporate officials concerning bioterrorism and attempts to commit mass murder. She has also prepared an injunction against forced vaccination which is being filed in America. These actions follow her charges filed in April against Baxter AG and Avir Green Hills Biotechnology of Austria for producing contaminated bird flu vaccine, alleging this was a deliberate act to cause and profit from a pandemic.
Summary of claims and allegations filed with FBI in Austria on June 10, 2009
In her charges, Burgermeister presents evidence of acts of bioterrorism that is in violation of U.S. law by a group operating within the U.S. under the direction of international bankers who control the Federal Reserve, as well as WHO, UN and NATO. This bioterrorism is for the purpose of carrying out a mass genocide against the U.S. population by use of a genetically engineered flu pandemic virus with the intent of causing death. This group has annexed high government offices in the U.S.
Specifically, evidence is presented that the defendants, Barack Obama, President of the U.S, David Nabarro, UN System Coordinator for Influenza, Margaret Chan, Director-General of WHO, Kathleen Sibelius, Secretary of Department of Health and Human Services, Janet Napolitano, Secretary of Department of Homeland Security, David de Rotschild, banker, David Rockefeller, banker, George Soros, banker, Werner Faymann, Chancellor of Austria, and Alois Stoger, Austrian Health Minister, among others, are part of this international corporate criminal syndicate which has developed, produced, stockpiled and employed biological weapons to eliminate the population of the U.S. and other countries for financial and political gain.
The charges contend that these defendants conspired with each other and others to devise, fund and participate in the final phase of the implementation of a covert international bioweapons program involving the pharmaceutical companies Baxter and Novartis. They did this by bioengineering and then releasing lethal biological agents, specifically the "bird flu" virus and the "swine flu virus" in order to have a pretext to implement a forced mass vaccination program which would be the means of administering a toxic biological agent to cause death and injury to the people of the U.S. This action is in direct violation of the Biological Weapons Anti-terrorism Act.
Burgermeister's charges include evidence that Baxter AG, Austrian subsidiary of Baxter International, deliberately sent out 72 kilos of live bird flu virus, supplied by the WHO in the winter of 2009 to 16 laboratories in four counties. She claims this evidence offers clear proof that the pharmaceutical companies and international government agencies themselves are actively engaged in producing, developing, manufacturing and distributing biological agents classified as the most deadly bioweapons on earth in order to trigger a pandemic and cause mass death.
In her April charges, she noted that Baxter's lab in Austria, one of the supposedly most secure biosecurity labs in the world, did not adhere to the most basic and essential steps to keep 72 kilos of a pathogen classified as a bioweapon secure and separate from all other substances under stringent biosecurity level regulations, but it allowed it to be mixed with the ordinary human flu virus and sent from its facilities in Orth in the Donau.
In February, when a staff member at BioTest in the Czech Republic tested the material meant for candidate vaccines on ferrets, the ferrets died. This incident was not followed up by any investigation from the WHO, EU, or Austrian health authorities. There was no investigation of the content of the virus material, and there is no data on the genetic sequence of the virus released.
In answer to parliamentary questions on May 20th, the Austrian Health Minister, Alois Stoger, revealed that the incident had been handled not as a biosecurity lapse, as it should have been, but as an offence against the veterinary code. A veterinary doctor was sent to the lab for a brief inspection.
Burgermeister's dossier reveals that the release of the virus was to be an essential step for triggering a pandemic that would allow the WHO to declare a Level 6 Pandemic. She lists the laws and decrees that would allow the UN and WHO to take over the United States in the event of pandemic. In addition, legislation requiring compliance with mandatory vaccinations would be put into force in the U.S. under conditions of pandemic declaration.
She charges that the entire "swine flu" pandemic business is premised on a massive lie that there is no natural virus out there that poses a threat to the population. She presents evidence leading to the belief that the bird flu and swine flu viruses have, in fact, been bioengineered in laboratories using funding supplied by the WHO and other government agencies, among others. This "swine flu" is a hybrid of part swine flu, part human flu and part bird flu, something that can only come from laboratories according to many experts.
WHO's claim that this "swine flu" is spreading and a pandemic must be declared ignores the fundamental causes. The viruses that were released were created and released with the help of WHO, and WHO is overwhelmingly responsible for the pandemic in the first place. In addition, the symptoms of the supposed "swine flu" are indistinguishable from regular flu or from the common cold. The "swine flu" does not cause death anymore often than the regular flu causes death.
Burgermeister notes that the figures for deaths reported for the "swine flu" are inconsistent and there is no clarity as to how the number of "deaths" has been documented.
There is no pandemic potential unless mass vaccinations are carried out to weaponize the flu under the guise of protecting the population. There are reasonable grounds for believing that the mandatory vaccines will be purposely contaminated with diseases that are specifically designed to cause death.
Reference is made to a licensed Novartis bird flu vaccine that killed 21 homeless people in Poland in the summer of 2008 and had as its "primary outcome measure" an "adverse events rate", thereby meeting the U.S. government's own definition of a bioweapon (a biological agent designed to cause an adverse events rate, i.e death or injury) with a delivery system (injection).
She alleges that the same complex of international pharmaceutical companies and international government agencies that have developed and released pandemic material have positioned themselves to profit from triggering the pandemic with contracts to supply vaccines. Media controlled by the group that is engineering the "swine flu" agenda is spreading misinformation to lull the people of the U.S. into taking the dangerous vaccine.
The people of the U.S. will suffer substantial and irreparable harm and injury if they are forced to take this unproven vaccine without their consent in accordance with the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act, National Emergency Act, National Security Presidential Directive/NSPD 51, Homeland Security Presidential Directive/HSPD-20, and the International Partnership on Avian and Pandemic Influenza.
In the U.S. since 2008, Burgermeister charges that those named in her allegations have implemented new and/or accelerated the implementation of laws and regulations designed to strip the citizens of the U.S. of their lawful constitutional rights to refuse an injection. These people have created or allowed provisions to remain in place that make it a criminal act to refuse to take an injection against pandemic viruses. They have imposed other excessive and cruel penalties such as imprisonment and/or quarantine in FEMA camps while barring the citizens of the U.S. from claiming compensation from injury or death from the forced injections. This is in violation of the laws governing federal corruption and the abuse of office as well as of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Through these actions, the named defendants have laid the groundwork for mass genocide.
Using the "swine flu" as a pretext, the defendants have preplanned the mass murder of the U.S. population by means of forced vaccination. They have installed an extensive network of FEMA concentration camps and identified mass grave sites, and they have been involved in devising and implementing a scheme to hand power over the U.S. to an international crime syndicate that uses the UN and WHO as a front for illegal racketeering influenced organized crime activities, in violation of the laws that govern treason.
She further charges that the complex of pharmaceutical companies consisting of Baxter, Novartis and Sanofi Aventis are part of a foreign-based dual purpose bioweapons program, financed by this international criminal syndicate and designed to implement mass murder to reduce the world's population by more than 5 billion people in the next ten years. Their plan is to spread terror to justify forcing people to give up their rights, and to force mass quarantine in FEMA camps. The houses, companies and farms and lands of those who are killed will be up for grabs by this syndicate.
By eliminating the population of North America, the international elite gain access to the region's natural resources such as water and undeveloped oil lands. And by eliminating the U.S. and its democratic constitution by subsuming it under a North American Union, the international crime group will have total control over North America.
Highlights from the complete dossier
The complete dossier of the June 10th action is a 69 page document presenting evidence to substantiate all charges. This includes:
Factual background that delineates time lines and facts that establish probable cause, UN and WHO definitions and roles, and history and incidents from the April, 2009 "swine flu" outbreak.
Evidence the "swine flu" vaccines are defined as bioweapons as delineates in government agencies and regulations classifying and restricting vaccines, and the fear of foreign countries that "swine flu" vaccines will be used for biological warfare.
Scientific evidence the "swine flu" virus is an artificial (genetic) virus.
Scientific evidence the "swine flu" was bioengineered to resemble the Spanish flu virus of 1918 including quotes from Swine Flu 2009 is Weaponized 1918 Spanish Flu by A. True Ott, Ph.D., N.D., and a Science Magazine report from Dr. Jeffrey Taubenberger et.al.
The genome sequence of the "swine flu"
Evidence of the deliberate release of the "swine flu" in Mexico
Evidence as to the involvement of President Obama that delineates his trip to Mexico which coincided with the recent "swine flu" outbreak and the death of several officials involved in his trip. Contention is made that the President was never tested for "swine flu" because he had been previously vaccinated.
Evidence as to the role of Baxter and WHO in producing and releasing pandemic virus material in Austria includes a statement from a Baxter official stating the accidentally distributed H5N1 in the Czech Republic was received from a WHO reference center. This includes delineation of evidence and allegations from Burgermeister's charges filed in April in Austria that are currently under investigation.
Evidence Baxter is an element in a covert bioweapons network
Evidence Baxter has deliberately contaminated vaccine material.
Evidence Novartis is using vaccines as bioweapons
Evidence as to WHO's role in the bioweapons program
Evidence as to WHO's manipulation of disease data in order to justify declaring a Pandemic Level 6 in order to seize control of the USA.
Evidence as to the FDA's role in covering up the bioweapons program
Evidence as to Canada's National Microbiology Lab's role in the bioweapons program.
Evidence of the involvement of scientists working for the UK's NIBSC, and the CDC in engineering the "swine flu".
Evidence vaccinations caused the Spanish killer flu of 1918 including belief of Dr. Jerry Tennant that the widespread use of aspirin during the winter that followed the end of World War I could have been a key factor contributing to the earlier pandemic by suppressing the immune system and lowering body temperatures, allowing the flu virus to multiply. Tamiflu and Relenza also lower body temperatures, and therefore can also be expected to contribute to the spread of a pandemic.
Evidence as to manipulation of the legal framework to allow mass murder with impunity.
Constitutional issues: the legality vs. illegality of jeopardizing the life, health and public good by mass vaccinations.
The issue of immunity and compensation as evidence of intent to commit a crime.
Evidence as to the existence of an international corporate crime syndicate.
Evidence of the existence of the "Illuminati".
Evidence as to the depopulation agenda of the Illuminati/Bilderbergs and their involvement in the engineering and release of the artificial "swine flu" virus.
Evidence that weaponized flu was discussed at the annual Bilderberg meeting in Athens from May 14-17, 2009, as part of their agenda of genocide, including a list of attendees who, according to a statement once made by Pierre Trudeau, view themselves as genetically superior to the rest of humanity.
Media is keeping Americans clueless about the threat they are under
Jane Burgermeister is a dual Irish/Austrian who has written for Nature, the British Medical Journal, and American Prospect. She is the European Correspondent of the Renewable Energy World website. She has written extensively about climate change, biotechnology, and the ecology.
In addition to the charges currently under investigation that she filed against Baxter AG and Avir Green Hills Biotechnology in April, she has filed charges against WHO and Baxter among others concerning a case of exploding "swine flu" vials meant for a research lab on a busy IC train in Switzerland.
In her view, control of the media by the ruling elite has allowed the world crime syndicate to further its agenda unabated while the rest of the people remain in the dark about what is really going on. Her charges are an attempt to get around this media control and bring the truth to light.
Her greatest concern is that "in spite of the fact Baxter has been caught red handed nearly triggering pandemic, they are also moving ahead, together with allied pharma companies, with supplying the vaccine for pandemics." Baxter is hurrying to get this vaccine to market some time in July.
For more information:
http://www.naturalnews.com/025760.html
http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/200...
http://in.news.yahoo.com/137/200906...
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...
061109 NUTRIMEDICAL REPORT SHOW HOUR ONE 01
Paul Joseph Watson
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Friday, July 10, 2009
Mandatory Swine Flu Vaccinations This Fall?
Swine flu fearmongering is increasing in its intensity the closer we get to fall, which is the timeframe earmarked for the production and potential mandatory distribution of vaccines which may not even properly fight the virus.
Despite the fact that swine flu has killed far fewer people globally than the common flu virus since it was first discovered in April, media scare stories about H1N1 “epidemics” are becoming more and more frequent.
A death toll in Britain of 14, every one of whom had underlying health problems to begin with, has prompted fearmongering headlines despite the fact that the 1999-2000 seasonal flu outbreak affected more people. Add to this the fact that doctors are treating swathes of ordinary flu sufferers as swine flu cases and the exaggerated paranoia is plain to see.
Reuters reports today that the World Health Organization will “issue guidance about the need for a H1N1 influenza jab” during a press conference later today or on Monday. Meanwhile, the U.S. government has put states on notice that swine flu vaccinations will begin in October.
“Swine flu may have faded from the headlines but it’s still sickening people here and abroad and is certain to worsen when influenza-friendly fall temperatures arrive. The federal government called together health and education officials from every state to check their preparations for the likely prospect of vaccinations and determine how they’ll handle flu-riddled schools,” reports USA Today.
Preparations are clearly being geared towards a mass rollout of the swine flu vaccine, in other words, a mandatory distribution. Time Magazine has been dutifully preparing Americans to accept this premise, reporting on April 28th that a mass vaccination program is being readied to combat swine flu while also urging Americans to “trust that the government is working for the greater good” and to not resist draconian measures.
The question is, what will happen to the millions of people around the world who will reject the notion that the government can order someone to stick a needle in your arm by force?
A concerned citizen called the the Arkansas State Health Department for advice on what he could do to opt out of the vaccine only to be told that mandatory vaccines were constitutional and could be enforced at gunpoint by the government if necessary.
One of his main concerns centered around the fact that the company chosen to mass produce the swine flu vaccine, Baxter International, were recently caught in a scandal after it emerged they had sent out vaccines contaminated with the H5N1 avian flu virus to 18 countries from their Austrian branch. It was only by providence that the contamination was found after the batch was first tested on ferrets in the Czech Republic, before being shipped out for injection into humans. The ferrets all died and the shocking discovery was made.
Some Czech newspapers speculated at the time that Baxter was embroiled in a conspiracy to provoke a pandemic from which it would reap billions in profits from producing the vaccine to counter a bird flu outbreak.
As we have previously covered, the last time the government ordered a mass vaccination drive in response to a swine flu outbreak, the program had to be stopped short after the shots caused over 500 cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome, a severe paralyzing nerve disease. 30 people died as a direct result of the vaccinations.
As with every flu virus, the particular strain of swine flu currently circulating the globe will inevitably mutate and change, and indeed there is evidence to suggest that this is already taking place – so how on earth could vaccines be a fix all cure unless multiple vaccines produced on an annual basis were distributed?
Ahhhh….now we’re beginning to see the full picture.
Since the corporate media is owned by the same interests that control the pharmaceutical companies, who by the way will stand to profit in the billions and even trillions if a policy of mandatory vaccination is enforced, it is no wonder why the fearmongering is intensifying as we draw closer to the timeframe that officials promised us all along would mark the return of swine flu with a vengeance – along with the mass rollout of vaccines that some people will be less enthusiastic about than others.
Different Charges Filed, Somethings going on!
OBAMA - CHARGES FILED AGAINST WHO World Health Organization & UN the United Nations AND OBAMA 1/2
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Permalink Reply by Toadpipe: the Soylent Magi on -
I feel very sorry for you Rowan, trapped in your shell of fear. Someday I hope you find a way to get over whatever it was that caused you to stop enjoying life and start instead to see danger in every shadow.
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Permalink Reply by Rowan on -
maybe I should add to my post, that if you are in denial of all the prof, or chose to be unenlightened, please go play in your sand box and don't add your bull shit smart ass remarks to my post. all you proving Toadpipe is what an ass you are.
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Permalink Reply by Adaria on -
Rowan, I don't think it helps your cause much to insult people who have a differing opinion from your own. I understand that you imagine you're right on all of these 'conspiracy' ideas you've got posting lately, and yes I will call them that for now because some believe them to be true, some do not. But as someone once said, "you attract more flies with honey than with vinegar". Your attitude to those who have a different opinion than your own doesn't impress me much. People are going to say what they believe even if it comes off rude to you, disbelieve you, etc.
Some good communication skills could come in handy in this sort of situation rather than insults and mud slinging right back at the nay sayers. This is my own opinion, though I have had training in communication skills and they have come in handy for me. I understand you want to wake people up to what you believe is going on around the world and U.S. lately. Perhaps a shift in your own attitude to those who are being rude to you or denying what you're saying might help?
I haven't an opinion either way on the things giong on lately. I'm sitting back as the observer for the time being. Not a helpful place to be at the moment I know, but I do pass along the bits of information I feel are really helpful to people I think will really take a look at it and not just blow it off.
I've noticed a lot of posts lately, and I'm interested in them, but I'm more interested in your own opinion, why you believe the youtube videos you post, your own research and you know, just generally interested in seeing you share your beliefs, then backing them up, rather than posting youtube videos on this subject or that subject. The videos you post are the product of someone else and their hard work. I'd like to see your own beliefs and why you believe in what the videos say and some other research that isn't a video, such as articles from more reliable sources. Because, after all, anyone can post to youtube. Though I do understand they have some good, reputable videos there, I'd like to see more research and supporting material.
Just my thoughts though...
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Permalink Reply by Rowan on
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I'm sorry Adaria
It comes to a point when I get feed up by cute unproductive remarks.
if you look at all my post most the time I just ignore or answer nicely, I may respond back in the same manner as they deliver there message, if they want to dish out some crap then they better be ready to get it in return. I'm not here to win a personality contest
that was not a differing opinion, it was a condescending smart ass remark and I don't have to put up with it. I do know the difference.
my post are not a conspiracy theories the one here is a real case of a real woman that has evidence enough to be filed at a real court.
I do not post anything that comes across you tube, I use them because they get to the point with out using hundreds of pages that no one will take the time to read. I research everything I see before I use it. I don't want people to blindly believe, I deliberately leave out a lot of my own research, and expect people to do there own, so in this way I'm not taking them by the nose and leading them to a preconceived conclusion.
all my post can be backed up with proof, scientific data, government records and if people would take the time they would find that out.
now I just presented a very important message and the first 4 replies including mine, are just mucking it all up, I'm tired of this crap.
I believe you may have meant well but if you were trying to give descent advise why didn't you email it to me, rather than in this forum.
how am I to take this?
ether way thank you for your input.
Blessings
Rowan
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Permalink Reply by Adaria on
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I replied specifically to you simply because it stuck out to me most. I hear what you are saying and what you are trying to do. I feel that what I said can really go for everyone though. Including myself, I'm still learning to use my communication skills properly. I'm sorry you feel that it has 'mucked up' your thread. In my opinion though, if it is a point worth noting, a topic worth reading, it will not muck it up a bit to have a few strange replies. Gives a discussion some character and fiber or something.
I said 'conspiracy theories' simply because some of what you post I feel can be taken as that, some do take it as just that, others do not as I stated before. I meant no offense by saying it, which is why it was put into the little ''s.
For those truly interested, I suppose they can go find their own links. Some people, however, like to read, rather than be visual or auditory learners. I don't mind the videos myself, it was simply pointing out that other sources would be nice to see, for me, personally. It is your style of how you do it though of course.
I totally get that you aren't here to win any contests. It can be frustrating can't it, to deal with people who just want to start a fight about soemthing? I've often found that going with a more civil response, or just not responding at all, tends to look a bit more intelligent. I mean, sure you aren't here to win brownie points, but you want people to get what you're trying to show them. Sometimes a little change of face can help with that by approaching things a little differently.
I'd like to say this goes for everyone at this point, and it wasn't my intent to 'muck up' the topic.. Acutally, this is just a small part of it. Feel free to keep going on with it and act like this isn't here at all if you like. I just wanted to comment on what was said, that's all.
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Permalink Reply by Rowan on
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I'm Sorry Adaria
I was still a bit peeved when I answered your post. smoke coming out my ears.. lol
I never go into some ones post and treat them like an ass, that's just wrong.
if I don't like it I may just leave.
if some one takes the time to put together a topic, a reader should talk about the topic not the poster.
discus the topic, give your point of view, right!
that is a constructive conversation.
but like this ass below "LOOK" Firewytch"that's the crap I don't like or Cardea's smart ass remark below. who needs this crap.
these kinds of people we don't need on Pagan Space.
it's childish nonsense people like them run good people off, but I will erect hell in there living room, before I leave. Mulhahahaha
see the crap I have to put up with.
then I get people saying this is just a religious forum? and they don't like my post and my post don't belong hear.
teach me some communication skills, if these smart ass jerk offs were by me in real life I would kick there ass. how would you deal with it.
thanks for being so understanding, it's nice to talk with a mature adult.
Blessings
Rowan
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Permalink Reply by Adaria on
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I personally don't find it crazy at all, nor did I say such at all. It hopefully did not come off as that, but yes I agree, if people think it's all hogwash and horse feathers, it might just be best to leave it alone...
Though negative, or positive responses to it still have the same effect by boosting it up the chain-o-threads and it gets more attention one way or another. It could be advantageous either good or bad responses...
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Permalink Reply by Toadpipe: the Soylent Magi on
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I'm sorry you feel that way Rowan, but I've never seen any of this proof you talk of in your post. I see plenty of opinions and statements like "600 concentration camps across the USA" but, that's not proof. Where are these camps? If they have been counted so accurately then obviously the locations of them are known. So, where are they located? If you can name the location of even twenty of them I'd be shocked and amazed, I'd be surprised if you could name the location of even one frankly. You'll most likely tell me to research it myself, but I'm disinclined to do any such thing in much the same way that I'm not rushing off to Loch Ness.
You speak of our ways to protect ourselves being taken away by gun laws and private armies of seven million blood thirsty assassins being formed in other discussions. All the while ignoring that your assault rifle will do you no good what so ever against predator drones and satellite surveillance. A seven million strong army isn't needed, only the press of a few buttons and an automated system can pick you and millions more off like so many Somalian pirates.
The thing that causes these topics to grow stale is that the really scary things any world government could actually do are never broached. Instead they read like the tag lines of bad pulp novels.
If you really want to educate about real dangers, try losing the crazy raving sensationalism. We get enough of it in the media and the supermarket tabloids.
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Permalink Reply by Rowan on
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Go to FEMA's web site, they have admitted the camps, most are on abandoned military bases. it is said they have over 600. some stadiums are to be used also.
do a search. the rest your blowing out of proportion, and putting words in my mouth, that's unsanitary.
do you actually think they will admit there planes, a lot of investigative reporters have found out what's going on. I don't think the Jew's believed people like me ether.
some investigators wound up dead and a lot of scientist, that knew to much.
I am putting myself in danger talking about this crap. and for what, so people like you can live!
you have to dig into it your self, you wont believe me anyway. right.
as you research, it all starts to fall together, we would be toast if it weren't for the internet, and that may not be enough to stop it.
even then it's hard to prove the worlds round when every one thinks it's flat.
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Permalink Reply by Toadpipe: the Soylent Magi on
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See? You don't know the location of even one, yet you claim to know how many. That in itself lends very little weight to your argument. Very few people indeed would blindly believe blanket statements.
Another example of why it is difficult to believe you is the title of this discussion "Jane Burgermiester Files Criminal Charges... " So, criminal charges were filed. Interesting. In what court were they filed and what is the case number? Since criminal cases files are a matter of public record this would probably be a great place for someone to start researching. Having worked in the legal field I've always found pleadings fun to read and I'd love to look into it. So, what was that case number? Oh, that's right, it's not an actual criminal filing, it's an opinion piece written by someone without a law degree, a journalist no less. Profound.
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Permalink Reply by John on -
Toadpipe, you are the idiot! You can't even do the little bit of personal research required to verify what he posts.
MP & BB
John
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Permalink Reply by Rowan on
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check hear
http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=1246...
or this op's 800 my mistake, your wrong hears a fricking list.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes%3Bread=14...
this
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread458836/pg1
it is in a report at FEMA they refer to the camps, I can not find it right now, it's there.....
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