A gumnan,one gunman,in Aurora,Colorado opened fire in a theatre after throwing in tear gas,shot over 70 people,killed 12,I believe.a pattern today. I see the middle road ,grey area,getting less and less. either people are one of the good guys or one of the bad more and more. We all lean one way or the other or do we? Striving for balance is tough,indeed,but to do that? In MY OPINION,that is evil puerly......thoughts?
Thankfully the Patriot Guard volunteers to block those zealots from picketing at the funerals of fallen soldiers.
No Damn way.................I dote like the word hate, but that Pastor up north of me, make me sick and hate him for all of what he and his so called church does.
"So the insanity plea does not work well in court rooms and does not apply to psychology."
Which is itself insane. Oh, the irony.
The reason it doesn't "work": is because we have this notion that being confined to a mental institution is a picnic compared to prison. Personally, I think we jail too many violent, repeat offenders instead of putright killing them. World population would decrease, money would be saved with a quick bullet to the head instead of this crock-of-shit lethal injection, pansy way of doing it. You want "justice?" Give the killer the death he gave others. Let God sort out the rest. But most, despite their claims, DON'T believe God will. (I think it's because we instinctively know God does not punish, only Loves).
I think until people are more interested in truly helping people and preventing these disaster than leaping into useless moral judgment (has calling anyone evil, sick, wrong, crazy, delusional, et al, EVER helped anything but the desire for retaliation, understandable as that is after losing loved ones?) we're going to keep having this experience.
On the old days, we'd kick someone out of the tribe and, being so isolated, they'd KILL THEMSELVES. Now, you lose a job (the modern day equivalent to being kicked out of Eden) and it's Massacre Time. I don't judge, I just understand.
Simply sick, diagnostically, we are a SICK SOCIETY. We love violence, we GORGE on it, DAILY, all over the world and nowhere better than in the U.S. of A. - just so long as it's contained on the screen.
Well, maybe you can't have it both ways.
I'm not arguing for a puritanical return to the 50's - far from! Just realize: we ALL play our part in these events. All of us.
I agree with you 100% on all that you said.
I dont agree with you MEPH,sorry.I dont love violence,never have. I dont watch it,feed on it,want it around me.....I can fight when I must,but when I must.What part did thise 12 people "play" in this? They went to a movie.what part did the dead 6 year olde child play? How did they contribute to this ? I do understand your point that violence IS All around us in the USA,it is......but where does one separate fantasy from reality
When I heard of this, I was shocked. I heard the news yesterday morning. I don't understand how anyone could be like this... Why would you take innocent lives?? A three month old was shot... So horrible.
Luckily, the 3 month old wasn't actually shot. She was checked out for any injuries she may have sustained in the panic, but was given a clean bill of health and sent home with her parents.
GOOD!! A 6 year olde is dead......
Indeed, you must be totally fucked up ( pardon my french) in the head to do such an gruesome, heartless act like that.
100% agree Nukpana......and in the heart
i really think all the people (not just here) who are saying "if only more people had been carrying" need to stop and take a look at Colorado's CC rules. I think they also need to stop and take a look at the fact that the theater and mall it was attached to were private property and did not allow concealed weapons on the property.
So Really it doesn't matter if more people who attended had been legally allowed to, and did carry a gun, because they would not have carried to the movie theater anyhow, seeing as it was against the law to have it there-rendering the "i would have shot the guy" argument moot-you would not have, because you would not have been allowed to legally have it on you at the movie.
just saying-this really shouldn't be about CC, but what turned this man to do this? he was 24, and going for a doctorate in a very advanced class of science before he suddenly dropped out (which kind of debunks the whole "he was a raving fucking madman" idea), what drove a smart, 24 year old to a place mentally that his only perceived way to fix his issues was to go on a mass shooting.
I feel that this man was not some deranged monster. He was a kid- a guy my age, that was having SOMETHING in his life go so...wrong? different, that he dropped out of his classes, booby trapped his house, and left to go shoot a bunch of stanger, and then turned himself over to the police without a fight (which is also the mark of someone who is not "insane", deranged people that commit spree killings tend to commit suicide, or suicide by cop after the shootings)
Much like the shooting in Norway, i think that the events in the shooters life, and what lead them to feel that there was no other option left to them, is more important then "was this a false flag attack" or "what would have happened had more people there had guns"
if we owe anything to the victims of this event, it is that-to figure out what lead this person to this end, and to try and figure out how we can stop other people from seeing killing fellow humans as the only option left to them.
Almighty Boz.. as I also previously posted this guy is very intelligent and planned this for months.. two things still worry me.. he bought items to make explosives with it's my understanding when purchases like these are made it must be reported .. where did he get the money to buy this stuff? so why wasn't it reported.. he also gave up without a fight and is not talking much.. I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop such as another explosion ..
such a tragedy and all for what... why did these people have to die? I keep wishing privacy for the families of these victims...