Magic, Karma, and "Do as you will but harm none."

How many of you have struggled with using magic against people who are trying to cause you or another family member or friend harm and chaos? And they are enjoying watching the misery they have caused? How does this effect ones karma if you do use magic to fight back against their destuctive ways? Also the Wiccan Law states "Do as you will, but harm none." (That becomes very difficult at times !) I was brought up with "never fight evil with evil, good always triumphs over evil." And "turn the other cheek" (Yeah ok whatever)

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Permalink Reply by bkyrdwtch on January 9, 2009 at 11:33am: I struggle with the law of three. There are pagans that chant to 'give it up to the Goddess' and they sit back and wait for Karma to help out all the while they struggle with the offense.

I believe that I am a daughter of the Goddess. We all get traits from our parents. Like blue eyes or pretty feet. As one of Her children there are inherited rights and abilities that are given gratis and settling the score is one of them. Am I careful about where throwing this energy is going to go? Yes. It does take practice. I've screwed up more than once when I was younger and got more than I bargained for. Was it a measure of three? No. More like a time out.

It is not 'black magik' either. All magik is gray. Not everyone follows that, I know. But it is my path. When I tried to deny it and do the happy let it go pagan thing everything around me imploded. After I reclaimed this path things went right quickly and rebalanced themselves.

Fighting fire with fire shouldn't be a knee jerk response. Sometimes a blessing is the best way to even the score. he he he he; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Connie (Acalia) on January 9, 2009 at 12:17pm: Thanks for you comment : ); ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Falcon on January 9, 2009 at 11:24am: My Aunt had a saying.... "people don't do anything to you that you do not let them do" I don't think getting 'revenge' through magick is the answer... but I would bind them from directing harmful actions towards me and mine... gray area though I have heard some practioneers say that such bindings are wrong because you are interfering with the person free will etc etc... but if their free will is to cause me and mine harm then I believe I am well within the "law of crow and raven" to defend myself and my children within reason of course as long as the INTENTION behind the casting is NOT one of revenge but rather PROTECTION I believe my karma and my Orenda will be fine.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Connie (Acalia) on January 9, 2009 at 12:18pm: Will look into binding. I have already done a spell for protection. Thank you for your comment; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by bkyrdwtch on January 9, 2009 at 4:54pm: That's the point. No one is talking about the six armed goddess bitch slap for no reason. We're talking about not only defense but action for protection against a foe.

Not just throwing the whammy because someone took the good parking space.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Lea on January 9, 2009 at 12:14pm: I don't struggle with it at all, I've done a couple of bindings but other than that nothing more. I find that being oozy sweet nice to them confuses them to the point that they back off. They just don't understand how I could be so nice after they've been so evil and it really pushes their buttons when they can't push mine.

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Permalink Reply by Connie (Acalia) on January 9, 2009 at 12:52pm: Yes I have been oozy sweet around them too when I come in contact with them and your right it does confuse them. But then they accuse me of being a mirrored person.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Lea on January 9, 2009 at 2:15pm: Only you know who and what you are, so they say your are mirrored, well, are you? No, then who cares what they say or do... it is their insecurities they need to work on rather than hurting others for their own enjoyment.

Only we know ourselves best they can only guess. Look into a freezer binding, I take a scrap of paper and print their name on it, put it in a ziploc bag fill it with water and toss it in the freezer after a small ritual and chanting that the person will be bound from enacting negativity towards whomever...

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Permalink Reply by Connie (Acalia) on January 9, 2009 at 2:45pm: No I am who I am and very proud of it! In all honesty I think they are a little afraid of me....lol
I have heard of the freezer binding. I do believe i will do that also. Thank you.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Scarlett Dragonfire on January 9, 2009 at 12:28pm: I know exactly what you mean. I struggle with this too and I think your feelings are felt by many. That's the tough part. But I also believe you have to do things to protect yourself and it's intent that matters. I mean, if in the process of protecting yourself someone that was harming you is now hurt is that your fault? Should you be karmically punished? I think there is some room there....otherwise there would be backlashes all the time. You certainly don't want to do something intentionally (at least I don't, and there a few I have wanted to harm after what they did to me, just a couple and I knew that they would be punished somewhere else down the line...), but in the protection of yourself and/or your family or close ones, how much do you hold back?; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Connie (Acalia) on January 9, 2009 at 2:46pm: I believe I have held back long enough! Now its my turn!; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by bkyrdwtch on January 9, 2009 at 2:55pm: Ifyou'sreally been wronged there are many ways to 'handle' the situation. Have you ever done anything past a binding before?; ▶ Reply to This