occult faux pas

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Permalink Reply by punkypagan on August 17, 2012 at 4:17am

Sorry it was not my intention to be cryptic. The thing is this guy just randomly pulled this i'd curse someone bs. In my exsperance this is not something that you'd do when you just find out that the group you are talking to are occultist. It is in bad taste. He also went on about his 7 years in the occult like it ment something. I was just wanting to see if anyone had similar exsperances or opinions on the matter. I hope that helps

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Permalink Reply by Níos Sine Dia on August 17, 2012 at 5:02am

Seeing as I don't believe in curses or magic(k), I can't speak to that effect.

I do find your assertion that everyone needs a trip-sitter to be gross generalization. I didn't need a sitter on my first trip, I wont need one when I finally use DMT.

No matter the situation, no matter the strength of the substance; I am always in control.

Those who have bad trips, or experience problems, are simply not ready for the unadulterated introspective view that they experience.

Just as I do not need a psychiatrist or a psychologist to evaluate me, I don't need a trip-sitter.

There is actually a growing movement of using hallucinogens in therapy; the effects of a therapy session on mushroom show a lot of improvement for up to a year, LSD being used to cure alcoholism, Ibogaine can cure any addiction.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/01/23/magic-mushroom-therapy-t...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17297714

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibogaine

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Permalink Reply by Lord Soth on August 17, 2012 at 5:24am

 'he got indignant and followed it with "if anyone did that I would curse them with black magic"

Power trip.

'Those who have bad trips, or experience problems, are simply not ready for the unadulterated introspective view that they experience'

Yeah, I would agree with that. My first experience with LSD was as an adolescent, unprepared, unequipped and unready to deal with the shift in perspective. I freaked.

Seems a long time ago now *sighs*

 

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Permalink Reply by punkypagan on August 17, 2012 at 6:31am

I can't really speak to hallucingens as I have never done them other than to say that I would want a tripsitter for each new substance that I tried. This cat was talking about eating sanpedro raw and I laughed at him alot. I guess that black magic was his passave agressive way at trying to one up me or somerhing

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Permalink Reply by Kixs on August 17, 2012 at 7:28am

I think I get where your going. He was one of those my wand is bigger than your wand types and it bugged you, right?

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Permalink Reply by punkypagan on August 17, 2012 at 10:32am

That and this was our regular get together with our friends and the first time he comes he makes acomplete jackass of himself. Ichalk it up to him trying to figure his standing in the group, but pretending to be the big bad mage just wasn't it.

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Permalink Reply by Kixs on August 17, 2012 at 10:49am

I actually find these type entertaining. But I find the oddest things funny most of the time.

I would not worry about him in general, me thinks he protest to much comes to mind.

As for him being your friends boyfriend, well I'm sure in time he will notice and deal with it and if not it is his life to live as he pleases isn't it. As for the group thing, he may very well of just been trying to puff up a bit because he was nervouse about meeting you all. New face in the crowd kind of thing, but if he makes a habit of it, just point out his flawed thinking and he will either get a clue or not. If not, shut the f up always works.

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Permalink Reply by Sagemoon on August 17, 2012 at 10:35am

He sounds like an immature jackass who can't stand to hear others' opinions.  I'd sit tight and hope my friend sees the same thing and dumps the guy quickly.

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Permalink Reply by Wolfie on August 17, 2012 at 10:36am

This kind of thing IS (unfortunately) common among the "Occult" community (mostly novices trying to prove something, meanwhile getting nowhere). Typically I ignore it considering people who go off on a tangent like this haven't the slightest clue of what they're talking about, much less actually doing what they talk about (i.e. cursing). 

Personally, I would just laugh it off as childish nonsense, not worth worrying about.

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Permalink Reply by punkypagan on August 17, 2012 at 10:58am

I find the whole thing to be hilarious. Our group is very loud and generally doesn't hold back.so this guy has a rude awakening comeing cause someone will call bs soon enough. i'd rather not play his game though it feels like sinking to his leval. I did make sure my friend wasn't upset about the words I exchanged with his bf.

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Permalink Reply by fawn on August 17, 2012 at 12:33pm

I'm not opposed to the idea of being safe while intoxicated.  I don't do anything other than occasionally drinking, so I can't really say much about trip sitters.  But my opinion about drugs is, that if you're going to get intoxicated, doesn't matter if it's alcohol or the harder stuff, you should only do it around people you can trust.  People who aren't going to try anything, won't let you wander off by yourself or leave with a strange person, who will be willing to get you medical help if the need arises.  People getting intoxicated around unsavory or flaky people is how people end up getting taken advantage of, or doing stupid stuff like passing out in lawn sprinklers and then freezing to death (this actually happened to a guy at the University I attended).  Maybe it's because I'm a woman.  We have to think about stuff like this you know?

As for the asshole.  If you spend any descent amount of time in the pagan/occult community you'll come across people like this unfortunately.  Some people just have a huge sense of self grandiose. 

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Permalink Reply by punkypagan on August 17, 2012 at 3:52pm

I agriee whole heartedly fawn.here in my town a guy simply got toodrunk and passed out. On the train tracks. Needless to say he was killed when the train came through and that was just alcohol.

I guess I have been away from the community for so long I just forgot that people like that exsist.

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