Racism = of or pertaining to race
Racist = a person who pertains to race
1.an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.
2.any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.
3.unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, esp. of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group.
4.such attitudes considered collectively: The war against prejudice is never-ending.
5.damage or injury; detriment: a law that operated to the prejudice of the majority.
1.a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
1. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.
2. the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot.
One could argue that 'race' preservation, is a racism. Some groups, seek racial purity, so that their culture and heritage is not lost to cross-culturalism, even if that 'purity' has not been proven to exist scientifically (see Ethnic Nationalism). The focus is preservation, not necessarily prejudice, bigotry or negative-racism (elevating one race over another). This is often-viewed as racial-pride, taking pride in 'ethnic nationalism'.
As recent as this year, I participated in dialogue with the ANSP (American National Socialist Party) and Shayk Rael (Preservation Society of the Moors), and both groups were interested in preservation of ethnic nationalism, a seperate issue from negative racism. The ANSP, is Anti-Semitic, as they see the Jews as the opposing force to their preservation but this is only one facet of their organization, and The Preservation Society of the Moors has various focus as well, but with regards to 'race' was more in-line with Civic Nationalism., and often borders on being anti-white, as it attracts equally as many racists as the ANSP. The ANSP, attracts racists of all kinds, but is open to dialogue between groups to discuss similar issues between 'races'; detesting the opposing force to their preservation, but at the very least open to dialoguing with other groups.
Shayk was concerned about education, such as Black History Month, in that he found it to only teach the history of slavery in this nation (United States), and taught no real history of the ethnic origins of slaves, or the rich cultures which were lost to 'African Americans'. He supported the ANSP goal to preserve 'White Education' if that was clearly defined. What would you teach? He asked. Good question. The ANSP leader talked about history and preservation of Ethnic Nationalism.
I've been exposed to many similar groups that discuss preservation (negative racism aside), and it makes you wonder, what would be preserved? What constitutes a 'race'? It all boils down to social identity, and why people seek to identify with 'race'.
Taken from Wiki on Ethnic Nationalism:
"The "melting pot" (United States), identity politics involves the construction of a "national" identity not built on ethnicity, but on other attributes such as race (Black nationalism, White nationalism), religion (Christian nationalism, Hindu nationalism) or gender or sexual orientation (Queer nationalism)."
Race, is a focus for Americans, because at every turn 'race' is a statistical factor, (i.e. Consensus). According to the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy:
"The concept of race signifies the grouping of individual humans by some set of perceived physical characteristics, often called “phenotypes,” which are thought to be inherited through some blood-borne factor. Which specific set of perceived, shared physical characteristics constitute a race varies historically, geographically, socially, and politically. Consequently, racial groups are presently thought to be social constructions, or a category created not by biological nature but by human invention. However, from its origins in the early modern era until the twentieth century, race was not considered a social construction but a real, biological distinction transmitted from one generation to the next. Thus, racial identity was thought to be something fixed and imposed genetically."
does not always agree with definitions of race found in the following sources: Cornell and Hartmann 1998, 24; Lopez 1996, 14; Omi and Winant 1994, 55; Spinner 1994, 19; Zack 2002, 1.
21st century: 'Races' of people can be any group which shares a social construct. This form of 'racism', is considered to be positive-racism, vs. negative-racism which typically has a strong focus on racial superiority, prejudice or bigotry. Not to say, that prejudice or bigotry does not arise within groups which constitute a race. Take for example, Satanists as a race. Many will typically share similar views, to include prejudice and bigotry against Abrahamic Religions. The Satanists as a race is not a negative racism, but if the race holding a common view of prejudice or bigotry this becomes negative racism. If 'racism' is logically fallacious, as many people wound contend that it is, then what does that say about those 'races' of people, who join together in prejudice and bigotry against other 'races' of people? Is segregation in any form positive? Theistic and Non-Theistic Satanists: racism, bigotry and prejudice occurs in both forms.
Race, is a strong word. So, most people will shy away from using it in favor of terms like social group, tribe, community, sub-culture, club, class or simply label. It's then reduced to semantics issue. The words used still represent racist values.
The type of negative racism that people try to shy away from (for the most part) is the type that involves racial superiority. It's a form of Otherization for the purpose of enacting divisive tactics.
Another form of racism is the otherizing tactics to divide 'us' from 'them'. Culturally speaking, notions that 'Americans' can not identify with the cultural values of other nations amuses. At closer examination Americans face similar social issues that other nations face, but perhaps in a different way. It can be language, socio-politico, or even cultural practices. Doesn't matter what it is really. There can be a context used to contrast and compare for similarities as well as differences we all face.
This discussion is for discussing notions of racism. I'm of the opinion that if you pertain to race in any manner (whether positive or negative) you are a racist. You are free to disagree with my view point, it does't make you correct or righteous in my world view.
I'm often taken back by people who pertain to race so freely and deny themselves a racist. Racism isn't always a negative value, it can sometimes be positive depending on the context. So, let's present some contexts that are positive, negative and neutral.
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Even if we were all 1 race.. we'd still find ways of dividing ourselves... because of the nature of being individuals... and the apparent truism in duality (which can also be said of a multiplicity) we further divide the races into nations as well.. then cultures and what not.....
Even if we all agreed that the only race is human.... we'd still seek our own separatism in one way or another.... and where there is division.. there is conflict....
I was not confused :P
We read Dr. Seuss in our home.
Thank you for putting this up.
I would very much like for someone who has racist sentiments (as described above with the definition) to let me know when and how this attitude came up, and how far this individual racism extends. Not exactly, but it would be helpful to know in order to figure out how racism is connected to a perceived transgression VS ones own identity.
ETA: I do not assume everyone with racist sentiments to be an active hater. okay, I am not optimistic that I get the kind of dialogue I was hoping for, too, but anyway.
ETA: *sigh* It is regarding the "white" issue, mostly. My self identification as a "white" person is not exactly solid, since I live in a comparably homogenic environment.
I do not care for "what should be" or political (self-)affirmations, or any of that moralist babble. I want to know how people actually feel about it.
When it began? In the earliest days of human migrations and tribe developments. Look at how vehemently Africans speak out using the divisiveness of not having the Neanderthal gene to prove species superiority. It still lives on today.
Technically speaking, we are NOT one species.
I meant more, for the individual, not for the whole humanity. I am curious how racisms change with growing up, and if it has to do anything with body politics, I would be specifically curious about the males here, since females are used to their bodies being a "public domain".
.) My irritations about why it is such a problem to be different is another story.
.) And then there is this problem I keep having, when I try to get into the topic with Black Americans, they call me a "European" in a derogatory manner at some point. It does not hurt me, it makes me wonder how well it worked for the "whites" to still sell themselves as Europeans, on our expense - most of Europe did not even have a segregation culture etc.
Basically, I would need to self-identify as a white person in a way so I can understand the aversion better.
I think it starts familial, and is reinforced locally. For example, my family were racists. They had an aversion to certain groups. Spaniards, Irish, and even other Italians. I was not allowed to have children of these groups in my home as playmates, even though I was taught different values in school. The inconsistencies always made me question the credibility of the adults. It doesn't mean my siblings saw things the way I did. They seemed more inclined to become racists themselves even if I was telling them that they were being coerced into being racist.
I was also not allowed to question authority in the family, even though my teachers taught me that asking questions seeks answers you need for personal growth.
Culturally, all Italian-American families seemed to share this value. You NEVER questioned your elders. You were to accept it, or else receive punishment. Mental or physical.
I always rejected this. This is what I mean by the inherent spirit of self vs. the layers of personality. True will is under there somewhere, you just have to dig it out. My true will was to reject the indoctrination of negative racism. Always.
As I grew older, this didn't change but I understood the social stereotyping that involves racist values. They are always rooted in a bit of truth and sometimes used satirically. At other times these typecastings can be negative and have negative effects. The wisdom then is knowing the difference.
How do you learn and know? It takes lot's of work. Study, self-realization, awareness, and deciding how much you want to achieve as a being.
Raising levels of being is popularized in esoterics while there is a stronger value on letting outsiders tell you what to do in exoterics.
For example, my family were racists. They had an aversion to certain groups. Spaniards, Irish, and even other Italians.
Something random about Italy, that fits here.
Italians are a bit touchy when it comes to themselves as Latin folk, even here, "at home". You just need to turn on the Italian TV, and see how all the TV Girls are blonde, and overall look like you imagine a woman out of a Swedish soft porn movie. I don't know what it is exactly, but something is going on with them. It is better now, with Berlusconi down, but still.
Don't ask me what their fixation with pseudo-Nordic is about, because I have been to Italy more than 4 times, we have plenty of tourists from Italy every year, and I see that they have their very own type of beauty, that even had been immortalised by many artists.
In East Boston where I grew up, we had Latin Schools that young Italians were encouraged to go after they finished Junior High School. So rather than attending your typical public High School, Italian mothers bragged and boasted about their children attending the Latin Schools. Generally speaking, it was their hope that their young sons would pursue seminary after High School.
I honestly don't know what it is with people wanting to emulate Nordic peoples. When I was young nearly all the girls in my age group were bleaching their hair, while I was adding extra dramatic effects to my brunette head of hair.
I agree, I think each group has their own distinctive qualities, I've always favored the beauty of really dark models such as ...
Her features are stunning, even in spite of the horrid purple lipstick.
I like "typical" ethnic looks. I admit that I sneer at the looks of women like Jessica Alba, whose complexion, haircolour and facial structure do not match at all. Something about her is completely disharmonic, but I don't know what exactly. It irks me.
Actually I sneer at her more because she is put in front of us as someone who is on stupid "hottest hottie" lists, does cosmetic commercials and looks down at us from the photo-shopped covers of womens magazines, who tell us about our newest intolerable shortcomings, that we would not even be aware of without the media.
If she were a normal woman living next door, I'd probably compliment her on her beautiful figure, and nothing more.