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I made a blog about two months ago on the many problems of racists and the like that permeate the vast reaches of Heathenism. I need to note here, as I did in my blog, that I am speaking purely from an American stance and that I am not exactly a heathen myself.

However, under the broader term of pagan, it effects us all. Some of the bias has been seeping into some forms of paganism. I applaud the groups, especially the one linked in the blog, that are about heathens and pagans against hate.

What got me was when someone was interviewed who is a peaceful heathen, they are afraid of being out of the pagan broom closet because of heathenism's association with racists, and not because of paganism's association with Satan. This is how bad this shit has become. I am really tired of it. With the current racial tension I think it's time to start speaking up more. Even if it becomes a tad bit annoying.

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What were skinheads originally?

Mosh pit punksters

Then goths...or variants

No, man, the punkers came a bit later (late 1970's), then the Skins (mid 1960's) adopted Punk music and made Oi! (also late 1970's) - Punk Rock empathizing on working-class and street\ gang themes. Oi! later went even further creating Street-Punk by mixing the said themes and the gang shouts with American Hardcore Punk. The Goths were a separate branch of punk-rock that evolved from Post-Punk. Post-Punk was slower, more intellectual, darker, and even delved into more mystical themes. Basically, it was like this:

Rock 'n' Roll (~1948) -> Proto-Punk (~1974) (mainly USA) -> Punk Rock (1976 - USA, 1977 -UK) -> 1) Oi! (1978); 2) Post Punk (1979 - UK) and Deathrock (~1978, USA), 3) Ska-Punk (~1978, UK), 4) Hardcore (1980, USA).

Oi! + Hardcore = Street-Punk (1982, UK)

Deathrock + Hardcore = Horror-Punk (~1980's, USA, though horror-punk-rock precursors are known)

Deathrock or Horror-Punk + Rock 'n' Roll or Metal or Hard Rock = Gothic Rock (~1980's; people are still debating on whether Goth Rock is a standalone genre or if it's all Post-Punk\ Deathrock\ Horror-Punk, and even the year the first standalone Goth Rock song came out)

guys that worked on the docks and shaved their heads because of lice. It became a culture from there. Know its history.

They were a mix of the Mods (Modernists - a British subculture) and the Rudeboys (a Jamaican subculture).

The Mods listened to Modern Jazz (1950-1960's), wore tailored suits and rode scooters, loved party drugs and dancing, watched French and Italian movies, and fancied themselves as swagger intellectuals. They hated the Rockers\ Greasers whom they saw as uncouth and dirty; many also hated Rock 'n' Roll.

The Rudeboys originally were youth gangs in Jamaica, but became a subculture in the UK once Jamaicans stared immigrating during the 60's. Being a minority in a still mostly racist society, they had to live in lower-class neighborhoods and to work primarily un-prestigious jobs such as in construction, at the docks, etc.

The two groups got together because during the late 60's many rock bands started adopting the Mod style, and the two scenes started merging. The more conservative, hardline Mods didn't want to be part of the rock scene which was becoming dominant, and started looking elsewhere. Many were poor too, and lived next door to immigrants (and by extension, the Rudeboys), so the two cultures merged, and formed the Skinheads. The first Skins were both black and white.

Then the 80's hit. The UK's nationalist politicians (think Margaret Thatcher) started blaming the immigrants from the (former) colonies for all of the UK's problems, and a lot of white (native British) Skinheads turned nationalistic because they were lead to believe the immigrants were stealing their jobs. Initially, it had nothing to do with racism even, it was strictly about jobs! Of course, some Skins turned out to be racists too, but those were few. Later, when word reached other countries, everyone thought Skinheads were racist, and by extension - Nazis, and we got where we are now.

Nowadays there' still Skinheads who see it as primarily a subculture, having nothing to do with politics. They even advertise their apoliticism as being fundamental in this regard. They're called "Trads" or "Traditional" Skinheads.

There are also those known as "SHARP's" ("SkinHeads Against Racial Prejudice"), who are like the Trads, but are actively anti-Nazi, anti-Fascist, and anti-racist\ nationalist.

And of course, there are the "RASH", "Red and Anarchist SkinHeads", who are also against fascism and racism and nationalism, but because they're left-wing and empathize the working-class aspect of the subculture.

Interestingly enough, the nationalist and racist Skinheads (or Boneheads, as they're also called by their opponents) don't generally like each other too. Obviously the racists think the nationalists as hypocrites, whereas the nationalists aren't all racists, and just don't like foreigners.

Brings back memories...

"The Mods listened to Modern Jazz (1950-1960's), wore tailored suits and rode scooters, loved party drugs and dancing, watched French and Italian movies, and fancied themselves as swagger intellectuals. They hated the Rockers\ Greasers whom they saw as uncouth and dirty; many also hated Rock 'n' Roll."

Saw the Who's Quadrophenia Tour , at Winterland , San Francisco , when

Keith Moon passed out on stage twice , and they had to call someone from

the audience to drum...

The whole Quadrophenia album was based around a character involved

in the war of those cultures...fu**ing incredible , with quadrophonic sound


Not sure of the origin of the skinhead?

Recall a massive subculture movement of the working class in the UK, 1960's-who adopted the term 'skinheads'. United by the music of the era and dressed in jeans with braces, Dr Martins boots, skinhead hair cuts, also, borrowing fashion from other cultures, such as the Caribbean Trilby hat.

Due to the poor economic climate in England at the time and low wages. Nazi and nationalist groups began recruiting individuals with promise of better times- A better Britain. Many, mostly disillusioned, became inducted into the National front and other nationalist-racist groups.

My thoughts are of more military origins though? Many in Germanic culture, adopted the 'skinhead' at a similar period?

I think many of the "Heathens" that are interviewed have a very new or basic understanding of the worldview and religion.Many are eclectic pagans who have put a Norse or Germanic veneer over their practices.

If you have been around the Heathen scene for even a short time you become aware of the factions within.

There are many outspoken groups and national orgs. that denounce the racists.Just one example is Declaration 127.Then you have Heathens against Hate.

I'm having shitty internet service right now but maybe I'll expand more if it clears up and I dont have to wait 1 to 2 minutes between typing for it to show up on screen.

I talked about that in my linked blog.

I’m glad you started this post, I was thinking of posting about Rune abuse. I’m not of a Heathen tradition, but I do use Runes in a way I hope comports with the tradition. I’m very disturbed by the inappropriate use of the Runes by Neo-Nazis plastering of their flags and shields. It’s on par with the corruption of the Hindu sun cross into the Nazi Swastika, which has made the symbol's use in the West impossible because of the conditioned reaction.


I will post later on that , and how those who not only know

the runes , what they mean , how to use them...

But those at the top have been initiated into the Code I

work with , of Obri / Hebrew and Runic combined...

Let alone I had a neighbor with German heritage ( High German )

and he told me one of the first things his father taught him was

the Hebrew Qabalah , and gematria , so he would know his enemy

and how they used numbers and letters...

And why they ( Germans ) used Runes...

Back later with some deep info on that...;)

Here is a link to a thread I posted on from another site ,

showing how the KKK , Nazis , Alt - Right , and other groups

know the runes and the code , and use it...


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