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So, recently James T. Hodgkinson asked people playing baseball if they were Republican or Democrat before open fire and shooting anybody who was a Republican.  His victim was Steve Scalise.  

https://www.wsj.com/articles/rep-steve-scalise-shot-at-congressiona...

Not that long ago, there has been a mentally handicap teenage boy who was kidnapped by 4 people for merely wearing a Trump hat. 

There are videos by Tim Poole saying Republicans organizing a rally and setting up the rally months in advance just for AntiFa to show up to bring rocks, bricks, knives, and all sorts of weapons to injure anybody who voted Trump.

Yet, Trump supporters are constantly called "Nazis."  When all the violence comes from the other side.  It reminds me of the Salem Witch Trials.  Where so many Christians were falsely accused Witchcraft.  "I saw Sarah with the devil."  And the people cried and pleaded.  "I'm no more a witch than you are."  None of those people were witches for anybody who knows anybody about history.  Yet, they were falsely accused of it, then put to death. 

There are very few Trump supporters that would label themselves Nazis or White Nationalists or White Supremacists.  When Tim Poole asked multiple Trump supporters live and on air if they were one of those.  All the people he asked said, "No."  And they hate those people. 

It seems more normal to cherry pick alt-righters out of all Trump supporters, then labeling all Trump supporters by the fringe.  Then injuring them.  If the roles were reversed it would be like labeling all Hillary voters as TERFs.   Cherry picking all the TERFs, then going, "Well, this person is a TERF so you must be one. So, I'm going to shoot you."  Whether or not the Hillary voter supports TERFs who absolutely hates them and want nothing to do with them.  IF the roles were reversed and Hillary voters were at risk of being maimed, beaten, ignored for being a Communist, which is probably the very FRINGE elements of the Democrat party that doesn't represent all or even most Democrats.  People on the left would be pissed.    Yet, we get constantly comparisons to Nazism.  When anybody could see that all the violence, censorship, etc comes from the left.   When the worst part of the Nazis were all the people that they killed and censored.   Nazis loved burning books and ideas.

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005852

Ironically enough, the people I see representing the Nazi party the most would be the left, since the censorship and violence is the worst part of the Nazi Party.   Had there been no violence or censorship.  I don't think anybody would complain about a peaceful party where nobody got hurt.   It's the violence and censorship that people have a problem with.  Which is what the left is engaging in.  Like ANTIFA and BAMN.  Those people may not represent the entirety of the left.  But they are being encouraged whenever a person goes, "Those Trump supporters are Nazis."  Even though, AntiFa and BAMN really do view Trump supporters as Nazis and seeks to harm them.  Even though there are black and gay Trump supporters.

Such as the gay Trump supporters banned from Gay Pride

http://www.wwl.com/media/audio-channel/gay-trump-supporters-banned-...

http://reason.com/blog/2017/06/09/lgbt-pride-parade-turns-away-gay-...

It's just faulty reasoning of the fringe is supposed to represent the majority. and the majority is supposed to represent the fringe.  Where I spoken to a number of Trump voters with black girlfriends, wives, or biracial children.  But these people are supposed to be racist Nazis?  Though, renown feminist Laci Green is now called a Nazi, and a white supremacist for dating Chris Ray Gun, a Puerto Rico, who has 3 black roommates, that he's very close to.  Even to the point of buying his black roommates very expensive gifts.

Racism has come to mean.  Anybody who's Not a Democrat.  Including Centrist people like me.  Nazism is anybody who didn't vote for Hillary Clinton or Jill Stein.  It is no different than if the roles were reversed and if Republicans flippantly called all Hillary and Jill Stein voters Communists even if the majority would never identify that way.  And to just cherry pick the Communists and find websites and blogs and shower the actual Communists Hillary supporters with all sorts of attention then going, "See, they do represent all of you." 

Because there is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between the narrative I hear and gay people hear and personal experience interacting with these people.  Where I'm black and bisexual.  Scott is gay.  Yet, we've been treated very well.  They have been more nicer to me than years and years inside a Wiccan community.  And yes, how a person treats me does matter because actions speak louder than words. 

I don't care for people who go on and on about how much they LOVE the black community and want to talk about black struggles, when they mistreated me even during the time I voted for Obama twice.  I voted for Obama twice.  We're on the same page.  Still wasn't treated with any warmth or kindness with how much you just LOVE black people.  You would think that back in Obama era when I voted for him twice that during that time frame I would get well treated.  But I wasn't.  Caring about black people just seems to be nothing more than virtue signaling.  Something people say to feel good about themselves, but nothing they actually mean. 

I have no idea what comes to your mind when you say, "Nazi."  I think of people who aren't for the diversity of ideas and want to censor different ideas from being heard like INVITED Republican speakers being disinvited from campuses.  I think of how the Nazis viciously attacked a diverse group of people.  They didn't just attack the Jews. They killed various people, too.  To me, ANTIFA and BAMN and the gunman is more similar to the Nazis because they are the ones actually hurting people.  I'm a black bisexual, and I'm more afraid of being attacked by ANTIFA, then merely being in the middle of a Trump rally.  

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Do you want to know one of the biggest signs of being in a cult is?

Do you?

 

Warning Signs of a Cult

by Rick Ross

Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader.

  •     Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.
  •     No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.
  •     No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.
  •     Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.
  •     There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.
  •     Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.
  •     There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.
  •     Followers feel they can never be "good enough".
  •     The group/leader is always right.
  •     The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.

 

Ten warning signs regarding people involved in/with a potentially unsafe group/leader.

  •     Extreme obsessiveness regarding the group/leader resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration.
  •     Individual identity, the group, the leader and/or God as distinct and separate categories of existence become increasingly blurred. Instead, in the follower's mind these identities become substantially and increasingly fused--as that person's involvement with the group/leader continues and deepens.
  •     Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as "persecution".
  •     Uncharacteristically stilted and seemingly programmed conversation and mannerisms, cloning of the group/leader in personal behavior.
  •     Dependency upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought. A seeming inability to think independently or analyze situations without group/leader involvement.
  •     Hyperactivity centered on the group/leader agenda, which seems to supercede any personal goals or individual interests.
  •     A dramatic loss of spontaneity and sense of humor.
  •     Increasing isolation from family and old friends unless they demonstrate an interest in the group/leader.
  •     Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful.
  •     Former followers are at best-considered negative or worse evil and under bad influences. They can not be trusted and personal contact is avoided.

Hmmmm, sounds like Trump and his followers...

Hmmmm... Sounds like pretty much everyone in Washington - The left are as rabid dog crazy for power as the right.  The problem is this massive concentration of power and money.  We have a fourth branch of government that was never elected called "the media" or perhaps more correctly, "the propaganda".

I'm pretty much done with it all - the few who still cling to a sense of true freedom and liberty, who understand that a free people need to be responsible for their own actions and not dependent on sucking from the government teat are drowned out in the endless parade of lies, distortion, and desensitization.

It's the same tired old story that has been told in endless nations, states, and power hierarchies. "The sky is falling! Donald Trump! OMG!!!" there are scads of Donald Trumps, and Barack Obama's, and any number of others who live to hold the levers of power - power over other people.

We don't need any of it, well... if we ever grow up. 

Our response is clear.  Ignore them when you can, live your life as you will. Live by the One Law.

Fiona , I have to say this because it is true for me

and I just can't take it anymore , without saying

something...

Your diatribes , and mistakes in your sentence structure ,

phraseology , and walls of text , are a violent assault on

my consciousness , as well as your overboard reactions

to one person's statements to turn something into the

idea of a conspiracy of vehemence against a whole political

group...

Your further reaction , is to suggest others "move to Canada"

or somewhere else , if they do not agree with you and your

cohorts , or perhaps better said , your cultist followers you

are always bragging about...

I have no hatred for anyone who voted for the asshole Trump...

I just think they are all crazy...

( please slow your diatribes down enough to correct your sentence

structure , please stop lumping all individual's thought frames together

into one big conspiracy , and please stop suggesting people who do not

agree with you , move to Canada...Thank you for that consideration )

You're not in a very good position to talk about mistakes in sentence structure, phraseology, or walls of texts.  It's just to pot calling the kettle black.  You're not supposed to click the "Enter" button so many times.  And this right here is a wall of text which I've seen you make frequently.  So, you're in no position to talk.  As far as blah blah blah, diatribes. PaganSpace has 100s if not 1000s of threads that you are more than welcome to participate in.  Yet, you frequently participate in this one.  How many comments have you left already?  There is 3 comments from you on this page alone.  This is much more like being to blame for your own misery.  This would be like going to Japan, then complaining that everybody around you is speaking Japanese.  Don't like my threads.  Then here's an amazing idea.  Don't participate.  Don't like walls of text.  Don't read it.  I haven't bothered reading most of the comments here.  Out of this whole thread, I've only read 3 comments.  The interests is not a 2 way street. People are more interested in me than I am of them. Go figure. 

What cultist followers do I have? My youtube subscribers can think of themselves.  And it makes more sense than you are.  This would be like me complaining how much I dislike Cult of Dusty and leaving comments under all his youtube videos. When there are thousands of different youtubers to follow.  Please don't blame me for your misery. I can do nothing about it even if I wanted to or cared anything about it.  Blame yourself. 

Shawn, I ask you. Please stop using walls of text.  People learn to correct your sentence structure. You really should know better than to click the Enter button so many times. 

Also, I find this comment to be rather hypocritical given all the Anti-Trump threads here even ones that target Trump voters.  Like 100 Days of Trump.  Where Trump and his voters were called racist, sexist, misogynist, homophobe, transphobe, bigots.   Where were you exactly?  Where were to you say, "Let's not call all Trump supporters bigots."  Yeah.  You weren't there.  You started a new thread called "100 Days without talking about Trump."

So, you have no problem with all the liberal pagans calling Trump supports "racist, sexist, misogynist, homophobes, transphobes, racist, bigots"  because you've said nothing about those diatribes and that vitriol.   So, it's all hypocrisy.   And for for the violent assault of your consciousness.  I'll be willing to pay your doctor directly.  But I'll assume that he'll go, "Why do you continue to communicate with her like a moth to the flame?"   In the end, I do a much better job at ignoring others.  Than others are capable of doing a good job at ignoring me.   If you can't participate in the 100s of other threads.  Then that's merely your problem.  Not mine.  Have a nice way.  Or choose to have a bad one.  Choose to participate in all my threads and complain about all of them.  Funny thing is.  That's why one of my very good friends from here left PS for good.  He said, "Why choose to be negative? If there's a thread that you like and there's a thread that you hate. Why participate in the threads that you hate?" It was the same problem he had in MySpace.  There would be a thread "I Love Jesus."  And "I Love Satan."  And Christians would flock to "I Love Satan" to bitch, whine, and moan about how horrible, terrible, and rotten a person is for starting an "I Love Satan" thread.  It'll get 100s of comments.  While the "I Love Jesus" thread would be left collecting the dust.  Or when Starrfire had to ban people because they were Christians who created accounts to convert people and complain about how paganism is a sin and they should feel bad about themselves.  Starr pointed out that there are many Christian websites out there that they could join but conversion and proselytizing is against the rules here. 

If you have a problem with this thread an participate in it. I see it as no different than Christians who hate paganism and who in the past tried to come here to convert pagans and shame pagans for their path.  As there's nothing stopping you from participating in all the older threads.  Or merely creating a new one.  

But thank you for your consideration anyway.  Have a good time with your friend Spooky, Cofefe, Fuck You, or whatever he wants to call himself.  Being in a good mood is a choice. Being in a bad mood is a choice.  You're more than willing to participate and whine, bitch, and moan as much as you like.  I find it funny.  I mean, "You're a nasty person. This is a rude nasty thread. That I'm going to heavily participate in."  Fuck yeah, that's hilarious.  Your misery is your chose. And my happiness is my choice.  Didn't read most people comments b/c they were too long and I didn't give enough of a damn to learn about their opinions.  If they give a damn about my opinions, even if it's only to insult me.  That still makes me feel good.  My opinions is enough to effect your days.  Wow! And this is what I love about being a youtuber.  Haters are your biggest promoters.  Thanks to even the negative comments.  This thread  is the #1 Forum Post of the Week and constantly on the top of all paganspace. Even tho, I didn't read most of the comments.

One of the things that  I learned from both YouTube and Sin Jones is to let my haters do all the work for me.  I'm #1 without even trying.  Thank you.  Have a nice day. Or choose to have a bad day constantly complaining me. Really helps the thread out.  And I appreciate the promotion.  There's no such thing as bad publicity. 

Yay!  You've got Top Forum post and you are #1!  You win!

And thank you for showing how crazily you react to my

statement and request...

You did your overboard , accusing diatribe wall of text again !

...lol...thanks for the laugh...misery ?

No , that is for people who love politics...

Me , I just think the whole thing is crazy...

I think your love to argue and deny your own obsession is crazy...

I think Trump , and all his cronies are crazy , but they affect me...

That is why I hate him and his crew...they like the rich , getting richer ,

and don't care about the poor , and common folk...

Anybody who gold plates their bathroom fixtures , or car , or any

other personal belongings to show off their wealth , is crazy...

Anybody who supports that is crazy...or a person , or people

like that , is crazy...

Your obsession with being number one , two , or three , or need

to promote yourself that way , I think is crazy...

Do I think some liberals are crazy ?

Sure , just not as crazy in my opinion , as others , as there is

at least more care , as far as I have seen , of the common folk.

I still think many of them are crazy...

That is why I do not live in misery , I laugh so much each day , it hurts...

Many times , when you post , at how crazy your posts are...

And your superiority complex , IMO...;)

So , go ahead , post another page of W.O.T. ( wall of text ) ,

defending your position , praising yourself , and the nuts you

agree with and believe in...

Give Me Another Belly Laugh For My Day...;)

By the way , unless you are seeing things , we

do not have an enter button , on Paganspace...lol !

Psst, Shawn.  A bunch of us have taken a page out of Fiona's book and are setting up our OWN YooBoob channel for Fiona's crazy shit.  Private message me for details.  lol

I feel like this entire thread gave me cancer

It is why many of us , me included stay out of the

political threads , most of the time...;)

Time to lighten things up...a little...;)

Trump Accidentally Records Over Comey

Meeting Tape With Idea For Candy Hotel

http://www.theonion.com/article/trump-accidentally-records-over-com...

Trump's staged rallies and the empty seats out of camera angles must be caused by not enough paid attendees.....

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/there-are-real-paid-protesters-but-...

You may have mocked claims about the existence of paid protesters as just another lie from the right. As it turns out, at least on this one issue, they’re actually telling the truth. The problem is, the right neglected to mention those paid protesters are part of the right-wing apparatus.

The story starts last week, when the right wing decided to aim its selective outrage at a free staging of Shakespeare’s play “Julius Caesar” held in New York City’s Central Park. Mike Cernovich, a self-described member of the alt-right who thinks the U.S. should give immigrants IQ tests, put up a YouTube video in which he offered cash to any protesters willing to disrupt the play for pay.

“I’ll give up to 10 people $1,000,” Cernovich says in the footage. “I need you to get up with either a ‘CNN is ISIS’ or ‘Bill Clinton’s a rapist’ or ‘The media is terrorism’ [sign]. And if you’re able to get up and be escorted out by security, then I will give you $1,000.”

In other words, Cernovich was actively and openly looking to recruit paid protesters. You know how conservatives made up that ridiculous myth about George Soros sending checks to liberals who march in protests? This is the real version of that, only sponsored by Cernovich.

The story actually gets richer, so to speak, as it continues. The night after Cernovich’s offer, two protesters went to see “Julius Caesar” in the park. Semi-notorious right-wing media figure Laura Loomer snagged a ticket for a second-row seat that definitely should have gone to someone who actually wanted to see the play. Alt-right provocateur Jack Posobiec, whose greatest hits include pizzagate and the Seth Rich conspiracy lie, also showed up. The two Trumpites told the New Yorker they hadn’t planned to meet—which may or may not be true—and once they spotted each other, they sat apart so as not to arouse suspicion. “Are you here for the Cernovich contest?” Posobiec reportedly texted Loomer, according to the New Yorker. She responded, “Just stay tuned.”

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