Hey all, as far as i go i will not,The man know as saint patrick attacked the pagans. he also invaded pagan temples and rededicated to Christiany. When it comes around iam dressing all in black like i always do
Permalink Reply by AriTheGoddessOfAwesome on I say celebrate what you want to celebrate and don't celebrate what you don't want to. The world has so many strict rules. Do something for yourself. Personally I'm pagan and irish but when it comes down to it, I work usually on St. Pat's day so it doesn't matter one way or another if I celebrate it :P
If we refuse to forgive what has happened in the past, how can we hope to be forgiven?
Permalink Reply by Reverend Greenhat on St. Patty's Day has the power you put into it, just like anything else.
For some it is an day of reverence celebrating the forced conversion of a native people to Christendom.
For me, it is an excuse to drink really cheap beer and talk to women in green miniskirts (I am not being sexist, however a female that I find attractive will hold my attention far better than a male I find attractive).
Hell, continue the tradition of the Anti-St. Valentine's Day parties and have a Anti-St Patty's Day party. Drink Whiskey, give everyone dollar store rubber snakes (I know he didn't drive snakes out, but it is what he is famous for). Speak your native language if it isn't English. Have fun with it. Build and ancestor alter (or keep one if you already have) and honor those who went before you (especially if you have Irish blood in you).
These are wrong from centuries before you were born. Nothing you do can change that, but what you do now can affect what happens tomorrow.
Hell, a Heathen friend of mine are spending the day in a new age store and then going out and imbibing in the green farie's cheap knockoff of a friend, the green "beer" (I put beer in quote since you can't really dye Guiness so they usually use American yellow water)
Permalink Reply by Reverend Greenhat on Actually, I just thought of a good phrase.
Randell (from Clerks II): "It's OK, we're taking it back"
Use the day to celebrate and honor those who came before. Toast to their honor. Tell their tales.
Permalink Reply by Pat Miller on My great grandpa was Patrick Reilley and I don't think he was a saint. LOL. Don't even know what his religion was, but I'm named after him, so I can have a Patty's day anytime I want. Love green too. :-) Think I would skip the green beer.
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Permalink Reply by Aurelia Pontia on I hate to break this to you but a majority of pagans willingly converted to Christianity.
You can make this claim all you want to Xoc, but you still have no evidence that they did.
The 'snakes' St. Patrick supposedly drove out of Irish, is normally seen as symbolic for driving out 'paganism', not real snakes.
If we refuse to forgive what has happened in the past, how can we hope to be forgiven?
Why should we forgive and for what do we need forgiving for?
Permalink Reply by Lilitu Xoc on Permalink Reply by Aurelia Pontia on Who said the forgiven quote? It wasn't me.
No, sorry, that was directed to Zephyranth's post.
Um, if it were all slaughter it would have been comparable to the black death. The fact of the matter is people liked the idea this new religion gave them and switched sides. I have cited tons of evidence for it and it's still happening in India to this day. If you want to turn a blind eye since you think you're holier than thou for believing in another frilly idea, more power to you. I'm not here to satisfy your Christianity hand ups, Aurelia. It's not my fault you carry it.
I think you need to make the distinction Xoc between people who coverted willingly and those who converted unwillingly. Some refused to convert and were martyred. Probably the majority were cowed by threats and were coerced into it.
That doesn't mean they were willing converts, it means they just preferred to live.
That is a BIG difference you just don't seem to get.
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Permalink Reply by SupremeTacos on i would love to see your viking evidence Xoc. Personally, everything I have studied simply said they were willing to adopt new gods into their own (not that they thought the new gods were better than their own.)
Keri<3
Permalink Reply by Lilitu Xoc on The Kongolese Saint Anthony: Dona Beatriz Kimpa Vita and the Antoni... <---- Christianity fused with African traditions, religion, and culture.
The Dialogue of Earth and Sky: Dreams, Souls, Curing, and the Moder... <--- Documents one of many Mexican villages where Native beliefs are fused with Catholicism. In the book Knabb says the Mexicans never saw a god they didn't like. SO God is adapted into their practices, even if Tlaloc is retained. They usually consider themselves Christians however. There's also things like Brujeria.
Commentary: Mother Kali As Virgin Mary: A Hindu-Catholic Phenomenon...
Viking pagan + Christianity <---- Quote: "We like to think of the Vikings as pagan plunderers. But, as Gareth Williams explains, they were quick to adopt Christianity at home and in the lands they conquered." and quote: "The Vikings came into contact with Christianity through their raids, and when they settled in lands with a Christian population, they adopted Christianity quite quickly. This was true in Normandy, Ireland, and throughout the British Isles. Although contemporary accounts say little about this, we can see it in the archaeological evidence. Pagans buried their dead with grave goods, but Christians normally didn't, and this makes it relatively easy to spot the change in religion"
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