Some very interesting execution numbers

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Permalink Reply by Angji on August 6, 2012 at 11:08am

I always wonder when they do the religious thing so they mainly use Christannity  as the default religion?

 I do think it is  kind of funny sad.  That supposely   the  most religious states  our  most killing is done.

 

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Permalink Reply by fawn on August 6, 2012 at 12:19pm

I believe there is also ample support to show that the death penalty doesn't deter crime.

 

I've heard this too.  I'm pretty much anti-death penalty myself.  Although, to be honest if the CO Shooter gets the death penalty it really won't bother me much.  Maybe the death penalty should be repealed except for rare and extreme cases like these. 

I'm also in the thinking that if one really wants to deter crime, one should focus on eradicating poverty.  There will always be psychos in the world who commit crimes because harming others gives them some sort of sick pleasure. But I believe that most people when they have access to all the resource they need, will feel no desire to commit crime.  If you're living comfortably, not living in an environment where you are constantly stressed about paying the bills, and feel truly empowered why would you break into someones house or car, rob a store, join a gang, or drown out your sorrows in a hardcore addiction?  The thing is that most people probably wouldn't.

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Permalink Reply by Sylvester on August 6, 2012 at 11:15pm

Ya I agree with all of that. Death penalty info.org shows the states that execute usually have more murders than abolition states.

I also am creeped out by people who volunteer to execute another human being who is strapped down then think the person being executed is a monster- especially since the person could be innocent.

I've said before if they want it to be a deterrent it's needs to be public. And if it's so great the pro death crowd should be ok with it public-not behind closed doors and hidden.

Also the executioners should be victims family members, not tax money payed state employees. I'm sickened by the thought of my tax money killing potentially innocent people and paying people to do it. If the families want the people dead that bad then they can do it themselves.

As it is now its tax money paid premediated ritualistic murder and it's just a primitive solution.

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Permalink Reply by Matt on August 7, 2012 at 8:19pm

I am not a conservative and I support the death penalty. We have the technology today to ensure that a jury has enough material and technical evidence to make an informed decision. I do believe that all inmates currently on death row should have their cases reviewed with today's technology and standards before their sentence is carried out.

To me the death sentence is in principle no different than military action. At it's core both are examples of killing that is justified by the state (and with this being a democracy, the state is us). I did not see death penalty opponents protesting when Osama bin Laden was killed by our forces. Anyone who agreed with the decision to kill bin Laden clearly supports the right of our government to issue the penalty of death for certain crimes. I don't believe that geographic location changes the morality of an action.

Lastly if I am given the choice of my tax dollars going to supporting the lives of the poor or supporting the lives of a violent murderers I choose to help the poor. For every truly dangerous person we keep alive there are innocent people who suffer for it.

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Permalink Reply by Sylvester on August 7, 2012 at 11:47pm

Military action has a distinct difference-it's combat. Execution is pure murder regardless of what the person did. Osama could have fought back. Execution has them strapped in which makes it very sick to me and it's just lazy. We should study these people's minds to find out what's wrong instead of just killing them. It's so inquisition-ish.

The money it costs to execute is a lot too. I just wish we could rehabilitate.

Really I'm getting off topic. The point of this thread is that Christians who are pro death are odd. Thousand shalt not kill....unless we feel like it.

How do you feel about public executions? Electric chair at times square at high noon? Or gladiator matches. Since America is ok with killing killers why not make them fight to the death then it won't cost anything. Let people watch, profits feed the hungry.

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Permalink Reply by fawn on August 6, 2012 at 12:02pm

Make sense.  The more conservative states are the more Christian states.  And support of the death penalty is a conservative view.

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Permalink Reply by Sylvester on August 6, 2012 at 11:26pm

That is odd to me because I was raised catholic and thou shalt not kill as well as love thy enemy were 2 of the big things I remember being stressed at a young age.

It's really thou shalt not kill-unless _______

And love they enemy is just a joke. They don't follow that one at all ever.

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Permalink Reply by Aurelia Pontia on August 7, 2012 at 7:05pm

Make sense.  The more conservative states are the more Christian states.  And support of the death penalty is a [majorly] conservative view.

 

This I agree with.

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Permalink Reply by Barry J King on August 7, 2012 at 1:10am

It is the "Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth."

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Permalink Reply by Sylvester on August 7, 2012 at 4:11am

So civilized. Nothing says "I didn't come from a monkey!" Like "kill that fucker!" if the religious people have such a problem with evolution then acting like apes isn't helping their goal.

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Permalink Reply by Sylvester on August 7, 2012 at 11:50pm

Yep. Still I think his point was Christians fully embrace eye for an eye. However the old testament has plenty of killing.

Please list a verse where jesus calls others dogs if live to show my parents that! I don't doubt it though.

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