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I notice a lot of discussion on the boards about the "New World Order" taking over and how we have to "stand up" to them... has anyone considered using their wisdom of the occult to confront and battle with these forces, since the other side seems very keen on using it against us?

I personally think this is a great idea, and probably due it's time.

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Hear, hear, John! I avoid the above-mentioned discussions because they are all by the same person. I've read enough to know that I disagree with most of what he says.

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What I am merely suggesting is that instead of just watching youtube videos all day and posting them up on PaganSpace, perhaps people would be better served by taking some sort of action.

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Well, obviously, we take common factors from all these videos, and define constructive solutions.

1 - The Elitists use fear to control
1a - Use Love to liberate

2 - The Elitists use the media as an outlet for this fear
2a - Use the media as an outlet for love

etc.

People have a habit of convoluting the process for a solution, when really, it's fairly simple. There really is no need to bring up the "100 economists" idea, because it's a red herring. Simply figure out what problems you see, and come up with a solution. And act on it. There is nothing complicated about it :)

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Oh, u know I am lol

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-The Elitists use fear because it has allways worked.
-The media would never let out too many outlets for love and goodyness, because it would never sell as good as the fear and badyness.

The complication, M' Lady, is in the people that you intend to liberate.
You are correct, though; those of us who desire a change should act on that desire.

I propose that we fight fire with water. Put out their embers with a hurricane. ;)

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Against what exactly?

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My Religion is a peaceful one, so not going to war with anyone, and as far as any group taking over the World, it wouldn't bother me, since all my precious treasures are in the Spiritual World they can't touch.

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Well, I respect your position, but I cannot rightfully call my way "peaceful" if I allow such manipulation behind the scenes to go unabated. To me, that is just "passive."

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What manipulation?

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If u can't see the manipulation, rattle, then more power to you. You just keep watching those Cheerios commercials and listening to those political speeches Obama gives lol. EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE OKAY o.O

Fact is, people are paid millions of dollars a year to "manipulate" people. It's called Marketing and Speech Writing. And while I don't get wound up in all the youtube hoohah about fearing it I recognize it for what it is.

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Merry Meet Lady Angelwhisper...

The group I have do what we term "Battle Magick" and do some nasty things to those who need it. We are all Warriors, we have all paid our dues in many conflicts on many continents and see this as an extension to our "Arts". We all follow different paths but our goals are the same...to look after our own. We deal in many things that are outside the Circle of light...and we do it well.

May all your days and nights be ones of love and joy....



Blood and Dark Blessings,


Luciferius Legion
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The Dark Moon Coven
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Interesting, though my "battling" doesn't nessecarily involve destruction, it involves more or less "transmutation." More power to ya tho ^^

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