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I read this article this morning.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/18/pope-francis-pagan_n_4467797.html?utm_hp_ref=religion

I found the popes comments about not being humble or providing service to the community as being a pagan characteristic as offensive, but don't think the offence was intentional. We pagans have been cast as the scapegoat for so long I'm not sure that the pope has been exposed to paganism beyond the traditional Christian propaganda. What are all your thought on it?

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I agree with him to a point. I don't think he equates the term "pagan" with a religious movement/group of religions at all. I think he uses "pagan" as a term to describe something un-Christian and base, which, honestly, is closer to the original usage anyway.

I don't see many, or even most, Pagans out there being humble or providing service. Throw out whatever excuses you want, religious intolerance/lower numbers/less organized groups/whatever. But when I look at the majority of Pagan affiliations, most are Eclectic, Spiritual, Wiccan, and none of these either have a core doctrine that includes humility and service, or a core doctrine at all. It's the groups that are basing their systems off of philosophical and moral statutes, as opposed to basing off personal growth and magical exploration, that are doing the work of public service as the face of the Pagan community. Not saying absolutes about either side, just from what I've noticed, it seems to fall that way.

And then there are Pagans that don't hold either humility or service to be any particular virtue, so why would they be the ones out there doing it?

Isnt everything non Christian classed demonized by Christians?

I agree with him to a point. I don't think he equates the term "pagan" with a religious movement/group of religions at all. I think he uses "pagan" as a term to describe something un-Christian and base, which, honestly, is closer to the original usage anyway.

This mostly.  I don't Pope Francis is aware or is even up-to-date with modern paganism.  He was probably referring to the old usage of paganism like Ailyn said.  Individual pagans can provided service via donating and what not; heck, in my town that are a few pagans I met who do charitable stuff but its usually through non-pagan based groups.

Basically, I don't think this was an all-out call against modern pagans. 

"...in my town that are a few pagans I met who do charitable stuff but its usually through non-pagan based groups."

Where are the Pagan charities? I wish we had charitable organizations based on Pagan religions and groups so that those of us that do service and charity work could do it under our own umbrella, and not just be affiliated as secular.

Where are the Pagan charities?

I know of one: Pagan Assistance Fund.

How legit are they? Their site  doesn't look very active.

They aren't very large, but, they are active in the Pagan community here. An example of what they do, is they send out request for help when a Pagan is in need. I remember one situation when an elderly witch had lost her mobility. They didn't just ask for money & disappeared. They asked for people to volunteer their time. She needed cooked meals, a ramp built so she could get in & out of her house easier, etc.

There's also one or two by ADF, the neodruid organization. They do prison visits too.

Yeah, I thought ADF had some. I was a member for a bit... I should probably renew that. But our nearest groves are 2-ish hours in either direction, so I don't affiliate with either. :( That's it, starting my own.

Does it matter if you are apart of a big group?  No, but big groups get all the attention.  I don't care how you serve, even saving a kitten from the side of the road is a form of empathy.

This. 

I also think he meant pagan as in anyone who is not a Christian.

I admit, though, I did find his statement a bit off putting. I enjoy volunteering, give to charity, and do random acts of good deeds. So, even if he just meant "non-Christian" and not pagan in the way I think of myself ... non-Christians still do good deeds. I was an atheist for a long time, and still did the same things I do now. Giving back has always been important to me. I think this is true for many people - Christians and "Other". 

On the other hand, I am always hard pressed to find a non-Christian charity (either secular or pagan). So, for whatever reason, neither atheists nor pagans are well organized in this department. Or maybe, since there is a smaller number of us, our charities wouldn't be so popular with the mainstream. I also think this comes back to community. If one doesn't belong to a church ... it's hard to find a community. When I was an atheist ... it was like crickets. There wasn't any place I could meet with like minded people. This was before UU churches became popular, and before meetup.com. So, that could play a part as well. 

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