Let me start with saying why this is of Pagan relevance: Among the many Faces of the Goddess, I find Eveto be very important, being Herself a pantheon of many other goddesses so similar to one another found all around the world in various periods of human history.
Now without further ado...
(Forgive lack of
any, just vomit-
This archeological site located in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia (21°29′31″N 39°11′24″E/21.49194°N 39.19°E / 21.49194; 39.19) is considered in Islam to be the Tomb of Eve (burial place of the Biblical Eve of the Abrahamic faiths), and for this reason I think that it should be a sacred spot for worshipers of the Divine Eve,even if it isn't really the literal tomb of an incarnate of the Mother of All Living. To me, it's the symbolism that counts.
The name of the tomb's location, Jeddah, is also significant, as it is derives from the Arabic word meaning Grandmother, which is so clearly a reference to Eve. If we take this in a Pagan context, we may then consider Divine Eve as "Grandmother" of the All Deities.
If anyone would venerate the Divine archetype of Eve, I would recommend
visiting it and/or praying in direction of it (coordinates previously mentioned).
Here is a map if it helps:
If anyone would like to learn more about the Tomb of Eve and/or the True Divine Eve, I
invite you to join the Garden of Edinu, which covers many interesting topics concern-
ing our Most Divine Mother:
This garden is devoted to Eve, the
mother goddess of humanity. Learn
of Her divinity, Her love, and Her un-
written full story.
(Sorry, this post was kinda
became a big deal for me
after finding that 1920 shot
inside the tomb)
I looked up articles on the tomb and I have to admit I do find it very interesting, except this:
William Dever, a professor emeritus of Near Eastern studies at the University of Arizona and a prominent U.S. archaeologist, said there just isn't any archaeological evidence going back far enough to back up the claims.
"The problem is that these are all legends, these are all myths and we can't date them," said Dever, who specializes in the history of Israel and Near East in biblical times. "My guess is the story could go back two or three thousand years, but we don't have any archaeological proof."
It furthers my belief that people are reaching in these myths about Adam and Eve.
If it's an Islamic holy place, I don't think pagans who worship Eve as a Goddess should go there and practice their own style of worship or ritual if it runs contrary to Islamic practice and belief.
I would find it highly disrespectful if I built a temple to Poseidon here according to reconstructionist practice, and neopagans who also worship Poseidon barged in with their own worship style and ritual.
Well I only spoke of visiting it, though I don't know
if it's allowed, have yet to hear "not allowed."
I didn't mean to suggest an open ritual per ce, just paying respect to Divine Eve. :)
Worship is worship. Pagans and the Islamic peoples would be worshiping the same aspect of her even, so I don't see how it would be so bad. It would need to be done discretely tho.
Except that Muslims do not "worship" Eve in the way a pagan who views her as a Goddess would, and styles of worship can differ greatly. A reconstructionist and a Wiccan-style neopagan could both worship Artemis, for example, but the specific ritual practices would differ greatly.
Well if you take another look at the last image I posted up there, you will
find that the tomb was sealed so none may ever enter again. This was do
to a radical branch of Muslims called the Wahhabi claimed that praying at
the Tomb of Eve during the Hajj was against Islamic Law, so I think you
may be wrong there.
I looked up the Wahhabi and I don't see anything that says they prayed to Eve. Where did you get this information?
If you had any moment to read clearly, the Wahhabi were the
ones who (read with me) "claimed that praying at the Tomb of
Eve during the Hajj was against Islamic Law."
Where did you get that information?
Pilgrims, whether during the Hajj or casual visit, used to go to
the Tomb of Eve and pray there, though I can't remember if it
was to Eve (as a saint) or to Allah.
I guess I will have to take your word for it.
Prayers "at" the tomb in veneration of Eve and the worship of Eve herself, are two different things entirely.
What gets me is that this whole thing is speculation without any proof.
Also Issy remember to site your sources instead of copy and pasting pieces of an article.
Are you suggesting that it isn't known as the Tomb of Eve? It's one
of the required destinations during the Hajj (Pilgrimage to Mecca).
I'm not really understanding your beef here, the only thing I copied,
aside from the images, was the first half of the first sentence below
the first image explaining what the site is and the second sentence
talking a little bit about the city it is located in.
The rest is from me.