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Update:The man made Swine Flu is the False Flag and the H1N1 Vaccine is the W.O.M.D.

Officials Say Don’t Blame the Swine Flu Shot, You’ll Drop Dead Anyway



Barbara H. Peterson
Farm Wars
October 16, 2009

The H1N1 vaccination propaganda machine is going full-tilt, and the timetable for rapid population reduction is upon us. This is soooooo obvious, people! They are telling us what is going to happen before it happens, because they are going to cause it. They know people will drop dead after the shot, and are putting out the pre-op denial propaganda so that people will think, ‘hey, they warned us of this, and it is nothing to worry about.’

Don’t Blame Flu Shots for All Ills, Officials Say

As soon as swine flu vaccinations start next month, some people getting them will drop dead of heart attacks or strokes, some children will have seizures and some pregnant women will miscarry. But those events will not necessarily have anything to do with the vaccine. That poses a public relations challenge for federal officials, who remember how sensational reports of deaths and illnesses derailed the large-scale flu vaccine drive of 1976. This time they are making plans to respond rapidly to such events and to try to reassure a nervous public — and headline-hunting journalists — that the vaccine is not responsible. Every year, there are 1.1 million heart attacks in the United States, 795,000 strokes and 876,000 miscarriages, and 200,000 Americans have their first seizure. Inevitably, officials say, some of these will happen within hours or days of a flu shot…

And just to make sure that this vaccine is as lethal as possible, Washington suspends the law regarding the amount of mercury it can have.

Washington OKs mercury in swine flu vaccine

The state Health Department will allow more mercury than usual in some of the swine flu vaccine to make sure shots are available to pregnant women and children under age three.

The department says mercury-free swine flu vaccine may not always be in stock, so it wants to give people the choice of using vaccine with the mercury preservative called thimerosal, which is believed to be safe.

The Centers for Disease Control’s Web site says the following about thimerosal:

“There is no convincing scientific evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the injection site.

“However, in July 1999, the Public Health Service agencies, the American Academy of Pediatrics and vaccine manufacturers agreed that thimerosal should be reduced or eliminated in vaccines as a precautionary measure. Most vaccines for children under six are thimerosal-free.”

The suspension of the mercury limit announced Thursday lasts six months and applies only to the swine flu vaccine expected to become available in October…

Here is the priority list of recipients for swine flu shots once the vaccine arrives:

– Anyone age 6 months to 24 years

– Pregnant women

– Healthcare workers

– People under 50 with chronic illnesses

I guess they are keeping to the time-honored tradition of women and children first, and as an added bonus, their shots will most likely have added mercury, since the clinical trials for the vaccine on pregnant women is scheduled to end approximately 9 days before the vaccine goes on the market for that target group.

I remember when the adjuvant Thimerosal (mercury) came out for horse vaccines. Horses were having a very bad reaction to it, and most people that I know of knew this and avoided them. Well, I guess if it is bad for horses, it must be good for people.

Mass Vaccination Schedule

The H1N1 vaccine was approved on September 15, 2009, with clinical trials done in mid-August for most adults. Vaccine clinical trials for pregnant women started on September 17, 2009, and a full-scale vaccination effort for all groups of people is set to begin in mid-October.

The FDA reported the following on September 15, 2009 regarding vaccine approval for most adults:

FDA Approves Vaccines for 2009 H1N1 Influenza Virus

The H1N1 vaccines approved today undergo the same rigorous FDA manufacturing oversight, product quality testing and lot release procedures that apply to seasonal influenza vaccines.

Testing began shortly thereafter for children, and the following was reported by ABC on September 17, 2009 regarding clinical trials for pregnant women:

Twenty participants in the trial will get two doses 21 days apart and they’ll be monitored in several different ways. Their cord blood will be checked too to see how it’s affecting the unborn child.

On September 15, 2009, Reuters reported:

U.S. officials are launching a large-scale vaccination effort in mid-October to inoculate the population, including those most at risk such as pregnant women and young people ages 6 months to 24 years.

Let’s take a closer look at the clinical testing procedure. They start testing on pregnant women on September 15. The women get 2 doses, 21 days apart, and are tested. That would mean that on September 15, they would get the first dose, and 21 days later, Oct. 6, the second. The vaccination program is scheduled to start mid-Oct., which is around Oct. 15. That leaves approximately 9 days to determine that the vaccine is safe, and get it ready for distribution.

Running a pretty tight schedule there, eh? Jab ‘em and if they don’t drop dead in 21 days, jab ‘em again. If they don’t collapse on the second jab, then it’s on to the public we go! So much for extensive testing. Wait, didn’t I just read something about rigorous FDA testing?

“The H1N1 vaccines approved today undergo the same rigorous FDA manufacturing oversight, product quality testing and lot release procedures that apply to seasonal influenza vaccines,” Dr. Jesse Goodman, FDA’s acting chief scientist, said in a statement.

Just how rigorous can that testing be if between the last shot and full scale implementation on the population is a mere 9 days? Has anyone tried to get tests back from the lab lately? How long did it take? This is a done deal, folks. They don’t care if people drop dead because the PR spin is already in high gear. In fact, they are boldly telling us what is going to happen before it happens, because they are going to cause it. They know people will drop dead or get sick after the shot, and are putting out the pre-op denial propaganda so that people will think, ‘hey, they warned us of this, and it is nothing to worry about – it couldn’t possibly be the vaccine, they said so.’

Let me tell you, if I look at someone and that person receives a vaccination, and then drops dead 5 minutes later, IT WAS THE VACCINE! No amount of denial will convince me otherwise. This is a eugenics program, plain and simple. And as any good eugenics program goes, it is being forced on the public by any means possible.

Implementing the Mass Vaccination Program

Let’s look at how this vaccination program is being implemented. After all, it is supposed to be voluntary, right? After all, Obama said so. NOT! Here are the steps:

1. First they try and get you to comply through a propaganda campaign to effect voluntary compliance.

2. Second, they try and get you to take it under color of law.

3. Third, it becomes mandatory

The Propaganda Campaign

Any good vaccination propaganda campaign will start with the demonization of target groups to effect voluntary compliance. Propaganda is used to convince the public that the unvaccinated pose a threat to what is called “herd immunity.” Herd immunity is defined by the Free Medical Dictionary as:

The resistance of a group to attack by a disease to which a large proportion of the members are immune.

If you take the vaccine, you are supposed to be immune, correct? If you don’t take the vaccine, you are supposed to be susceptible to the virus. Why should the vaccinated worry about the unvaccinated if they are immune? If people do not want to take the vaccine and decide to protect themselves via natural methods, how does that affect supposed “herd immunity?” Are we a bunch of cattle that lose value if we get sick? The H1N1 is not a major health risk. The regular seasonal flu is worse than the H1N1 variety, and even health professionals refuse to take it. Yet, the propaganda goes on to convince people that if certain groups of people do not take the vaccine, then “herd immunity” is compromised, and everyone is in danger. Take this piece from the Yale Journal of Biology and Medicine:

Mandatory School Vaccinations: The Role of Tort Law

“Religious Communities as Disease “Hot Spots.”

Governments traditionally have considered “communities” in relatively broad terms, viewing entire states — or sometimes even the whole nation — as a “community” for herd immunity purposes [14]. However, recent experiences have demonstrated that actual communities are far smaller. For instance, although nationwide measles vaccination rates appeared high enough to ensure national herd immunity, disproportionately low vaccination rates among blacks and Hispanics resulted in measles outbreaks in several large urban areas, most notably Los Angeles [15].

Religious communities — particularly Christian Science, Amish, and Mennonite communities — have been the source of many preventable disease outbreaks in recent years. Diseases from polio [16] to measles [17] to rubella [18] have resurfaced with increasing frequency in the United States due to herd immunity being lost in such religious ghettos. This comes at a tremendous cost to society, for “vaccine-preventable diseases impose $10 billion worth of healthcare costs and over 30,000 otherwise avoidable deaths in America each year” [19].”


* flu pandemic Officials Say Don’t Blame the Swine Flu Shot, You’ll Drop Dead Anyway

Religious ghettos? A typical propaganda technique and scare tactic – demonize the opposition, then accuse it of infecting others and lay blame. If people get sick because they do not take the vaccine, then your health care costs will go up. But wait, it gets better:

For decades, all 50 states have required that parents vaccinate their children against various diseases, including polio and measles, as a prerequisite to enrolling them in public schools [1]. While virtually all states have tailored their immunization statutes to exempt those with religious (and sometimes philosophical) objections to vaccines from these requirements [2], widespread use of these exemptions threatens to undermine many of the benefits of mandatory vaccinations, such as preserving “herd immunity” [3]. Since it is unlikely that state governments will eliminate such exemptions outright, society must consider other methods of providing incentives for vaccination and compensating those who have suffered due to a disease outbreak caused by a community’s loss of herd immunity.

Now the vaccinated become the victims of the unvaccinated because they may have suffered due to a disease outbreak caused by a lack of “herd immunity,” and the unvaccinated can be threatened with a Tort lawsuit for “failure to vaccinate” if someone gets a disease and an unvaccinated person happens to be there.

The following article from Dr. Sherri Tenpenny shows how the Amish were used to advance “herd immunity” propaganda:

On October 14, [2005] the major media outlets shrieked a report of “the first outbreak of polio in the United States in 26 years,” occurring in an Amish community in central Minnesota. The specter of hundreds of children in braces and iron lung machines lining the halls of hospitals immediately danced through the air, and directly into the minds of parents who have chosen to not vaccinate their children.

“First of all, there wasn’t an “outbreak of polio.” There was only the discovery of an inactivated polio virus in the stool of four children. The first confirmation was in a 7-month old Amish infant, presumably hospitalized, with severe immune deficiency. The “find” prompted screening of other children in the community; four children were confirmed positive. None experienced any type of paralysis.

Part of the panic can be blamed on inaccurate reporting. The virus that was identified was not “wild polio.” It was a virus that is found only in the oral polio vaccine (OPV). Oral vaccine-strain viruses are inactivated with formaldehyde and are generally considered by the CDC “too weak” to cause disease. Even though the OPV is still used extensively in Third World countries, it has not been used in the United States since 2000. How did children in an isolated Amish community, with no exposure to foreigners, become exposed to vaccine-strain polio virus? That remains a mystery.

Color of Law

Now let’s take a look at what is known as the color of law. It is not against the law to not vaccinate your children. However, non-mandatory vaccinations do not have to be law to be mandatory. If the system around you forces you to do something against your will or suffer penalties for non-compliance via the back door approach such as the following example, then the result is the same as if there was a mandatory vaccination law.

Example: If your kids are enrolled in a public school, and you cannot homeschool them because of economics or other hardship, then you face mandatory vaccines. If you go the waiver route, then public officials can make it extremely difficult if not impossible to comply with the waiver requirements, and you end up violating an actual law requiring enrollment of your child in school. You’ve got to get them to school on time or face penalties for compulsory education violations because you refused the vaccinations and did not complete the waiver in time for the start of school. This is how non-mandatory becomes mandatory without being law, but is enforced under color of law.

Note: color of law. The appearance or semblance, without the substance, of a legal right. • The term usu. implies a misuse of power made possible because the wrongdoer is clothed with the authority of the state. State action is synonymous with color of [state] law in the context of federal civil-rights statutes or criminal law. See STATE ACTION. [Cases: Civil Rights flu pandemic Officials Say Don’t Blame the Swine Flu Shot, You’ll Drop Dead Anyway1323. C.J.S. Civil Rights §§ 92-94.] BLACK’S LAW DICTIONARY 282 (8th ed. 2004)

Mandatory Programs

When outright propaganda and color of law don’t work, and not enough people take the vaccine, it becomes mandatory. All semblance of fair play is now thrown out, and the real motive becomes clear. Take the vaccine or else.

N.Y. Health Care Workers Revolt Over H1N1 Vaccine

They’re upset over an ultimatum from the health department. Workers are being told to either get the swine flu vaccine or lose their jobs.

New York is the first state in the country to mandate flu vaccinations for its health care workers. The first doses of swine flu vaccine will be available beginning next week. Much of it is reserved for state health care workers, but there is growing opposition to required inoculations.

Health care workers in Hauppauge screamed “No forced shots!” as they rallied Tuesday against the state regulation requiring them to roll up their sleeves.

“I don’t even tend to the sick. I am in the nutrition field. They are telling me I must get the shot because I work in a health clinic setting,” said Paula Small, a Women, Infants and Children health care worker.

Small said she will refuse, worried the vaccine is untested and unproven, leaving her vulnerable. In 1976, there were some deaths associated with a swine flu vaccination.

Registered nurse Frank Mannino, 50, was also angry. He said the state regulation violates his personal freedom and civil rights. “And now I will lose my job if I don’t take the regular flu shot or the swine flu shot.”

When asked if he’s willing to lose his job, Mannino said, “Absolutely. I will not take it, will not be forced. This is still America.”

The protest also shook Albany Tuesday. Hundreds of demonstrators demanded freedom of choice. After all, as health care professionals they argue they’re already constantly washing their hands and aren’t likely to transmit or contract the flu.

Around 500,000 health care workers are slated to receive the vaccine.

“It’s certainly their prerogative to voice their opinion,” said Dr. Susan Donelan of Stony Brook University Hospital. Donelan said most in the medical community see the benefits and safety of the shots and welcome them, and that hospitals must obey the law. “Our hospital is committed to following the mandate to have our personnel vaccinated,” she said.

The state said change was needed this year to save lives, typically only about 45 percent of health care workers take advantage of voluntary flu vaccines.

More than 150 institutional outbreaks of seasonal and H1N1 flu are expected this year in hospitals, nursing homes and hospice centers. New York and New Jersey will get their first doses of the swine flu vaccine next week. It will be the nasal mist, not a shot.

Dangers of Recombination

Now that we have looked at the supposed “rigorous testing procedures,” the potentially harmful doses of mercury involved, and how a mandatory vaccination program is implemented, let’s take a look at another danger that the vaccination program pushers don’t want you to know about.

Jeffrey M. Smith shows us the dangers of genetically modified live virus vaccines, such as the H1N1:

GM Vaccines Recombine into Unpredictable Hybrid

In what may be the first experiment of its kind, scientists infected cell cultures with two related viruses. One was a genetically engineered poxvirus, (vaccinia virus (VIC) with a transgene from the influenza virus). The other was a naturally occurring relative of the first virus, isolated from Norwegian wildlife. Both were orthopoxviruses. The two viruses interacted and created many new hybrid viruses by recombination. The characteristics of some of the new viruses included traits not expressed in either parent virus. Some viruses, for example, spread faster than either parent, while others produced different, more serious cell culture changes. A single virus multiplied into hundreds of thousands of viruses in a few hours, with unpredictable consequences. Since the marker gene in the transgenic virus was not present in some of the newly formed hybrid viruses, it would not be possible to track transgenic viruses as the origin of the hybrids, if they were found in the wild.

When a person receives a dose of the genetically engineered H1N1 live virus vaccine, that virus has the potential to recombine in the host. As with all live virus vaccines, the host will shed this newly recombined virus for around 21 days after inoculation. Persons who come in contact with the newly inoculated are subjected not to the original virus, but the newly recombined one thanks to genetic engineering. The new virus is potentially more lethal than the original live vaccine virus. This is the way to spread a lethal strain of flu to whatever segment of the population you are aiming to destroy. Create a virus via genetic engineering, inject as many as you can with it, and let nature do the rest.

The powers that be do not want anyone to know about the active shedding threat because they want the genetically modified recombined virus to spread just as far and wide as possible, thereby validating their fear mongering and creating more of a demand for the product (vaccine). This validation justifies all of the emergency measures already in place, such as quarantine facilities, forced vaccination checkpoints, etc.

It is a typical marketing ploy used in a most evil way.

Summation

We have a vaccine that has undergone such a limited “testing” that no sane person would willingly take it, the law regarding the amount of mercury allowed in vaccines has been suspended just so this one can have a bigger dose of it, and they are targeting pregnant women and children first.

The vaccine is supposedly voluntary, yet certain segments of the population are required to have it to keep their jobs. The health department has made mandatory the vaccines for health care workers already, and if not enough people take it to meet the “herd immunity” quota, it becomes mandatory for everyone. A certain percentage of the population has to take the shot to be active carriers in order to shed the virus to others to reduce the population to 500 mil, as required by eugenicists.

A Possible Scenario

I anticipate that we will have a window of opportunity that will last while the H1N1 flu shot volunteers run to the pharmas for their shot when they become available on or around October 15. There is a formula that is used to determine what percentage of the populace needs to be vaccinated to maintain “herd immunity,” and the time schedule for forced vaccinations will be based on that, at least for a little while.

“Herd immunity” propaganda statistics will be used to implement forced vaccinations. If not enough people volunteer for the shots, “herd immunity” is supposedly compromised and a national health emergency can be declared, and people will buy into it.

When the live genetically modified virus recombines in the host and the vaccinated shed the newly mutated virus, people will be getting sick from having contact with the vaccinated, and this will reinforce the need for forced vaccinations to “solve the problem.” More people will rush to get the vaccine “cure” and more live genetically modified virus will be passed on to others.

This will snowball into an all-out emergency event, which will involve the use of checkpoints, FEMA camps for quarantine, and martial law. We want to be off the streets as much as possible to avoid not only any quarantine and mandatory shot procedures, but also the mutated virus.

I hope I am wrong, but I am advising everyone reading this to be prepared just in case I am right.




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I knew it! It's those damn fancy pigs again.

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o_O

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"New York is the first state in the country to mandate flu vaccinations for its health care workers."

Watertown nurses are picketing this very issue among other related issues. I've heard both sides of this debate from it should be stanard issue just as goggles are for carpernters, too there are worse diseases than the flu to contend with. I'm not a HCW so I can't begin to comment. I feel for them though.

What upsets me and I find discontenting is that a pregnant women would put their unborn child in danger. Isn't this child abuse for those who wish to have that opinion? Why would she do that not knowing what will happen?

The shot according to the CDC, does not have the adjuvent, but the flu mist does. That's why it's not for pregnant women, children under the age of 6 and people with immune problems.

Jeffrey M. Smith is not a doctor or scientist. He is an advicate/businessman against GMF.

For an expert on Recombinomics, Dr. Henry Niman, a biochemist. I'm not a huge fan but he does leave me wondering at times. Here is his stie:
http://www.recombinomics.com/whats_new.html

Ah prisionplanet. These conspiracey sites love to come over to my blog and link me from their sites. I've made it very clear that if they imply my blog Flu News Network or my name, cottontop is used in a way that would suggest I go along with what they are pushing, I'm going to get very, very ugly. They leave me alone and I leave them alone.

At this time Rowan, I think nothing is going to come of this. I honestly don't. These novel flu viruese come in cycles and will continue to do so. With each cycle, the conspiracey people come crawling out of the wood work.

And lastly, I don't think it's fair to blame what leads to cancer, Alzheimer’s disease, ect. on vaccines. There are way too many variables that add too and increase these diseases in humans. Everything we come in contact with has the potiental to make us sick, so there is a helva lot more to this than vaccines. I believe vaccines are imporant part to our lives but only if they are safe. The jury is still out on that so for the time being I choose to sit on the fence. Now the evidence so far doens't look good. Case in point, the vaccine for cervical cancer. A 16 year old who lived a few miles from me dropped dead two days after getting the first shot. She was a healthy girl. Then reports of deaths from teens that had the shot just dying after getting the vaccine start coming out. The Health Committe swiftly put it's PR out desperately tring to combat these reports as "underlying heath issues." Well, that certainly didn't fly and now doctors are refusing to give the vaccine because they say it hasn't been tested long enough. I was against it from the very beginning. I am also against hormone replacemnet theropy, always have been. Putting anything synthetic in the body and excpet the body to responde in a positive way is the biggest horseshit. But wait, the hormones are made from horse hormones. JHC!! Give me a break.

It's not just the vaccines that can make us sick, it's everything else. so to target vaccines is really pointless, until we've cleaned up our air, water, land and food. It all goes hand in hand.

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Rowan,

May I ask you a real question PLEASE?

Well hell I'm going to anyways so I really don't care a about your answer!

Why do you use the same sites over and over and over and over again?

Hell you use prison planet.com and infowars more then anyone I have every see. huh oh I better back track and say you use ALEX JONES more then he uses his own name.

You really believe all what you post! I think is laughable since you posted a new link that you try to throw us all off! I is called healthfreedomusa.org. Too funny for a man who says he researches everything down. If you did Rowan you would know this healthfreedomus.org is a part of the Alex Jones w3 Companies.

You really feel it is a threat, then do me a favor and never talk me down again and give this site a break.

Do something Spiritual just one real time Please, instead doing a thread like this. But I know you to well, it will never happen. I will say this as a Official of what you are Posting! IT IS ALL A DAMN LIE and you know it! No one in the department ever said as much what you are trying to pass off as as bunch of BS. This Vaccination has been tested for over 30 odd some years and everyone knows it but the TIN HAT FOLKS!

Here is your new hat! As a matter of fact here is your group of Conspirators you will need to conspire with!

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Tea

Millions of company's use the services of W3 even the Government, I suppose they are all affiliated with Alex, I use his site so what I also use plenty of others news resources.

in more then one way your blind much like the Jews that didn't believe what's going on, well they took there last ride to the gas chambers.

I feel sorry for you that all you want to do is blind others to the truth, why you made me your favorite punching bag is probably laughable, like I care.

I bring the truth what do you bring? your part of the problem keeping the truth from others seems to be your thing, it shows you don't give a dam about people, all you care about is your own ego.

I wouldn't wast my time talking about anything hear about Witchcraft or spirituality, the ones that are true don't need it and most the others are not worth my efforts, we have to many fake wanna bees hear, way to many that couldn't possibly understand the old ways.

I never saw such a pathetic bunch of pagans in one place before, it seems every lost sole or loser that doesn't fit into mainstream society finds there way to paganism.

Now granted we have some good people hear and a few adept Witches, but believe me if they had something they needed to learn, this would be the last place they would come to seek knowledge.

Tea it matters not what you believe, your 100% brain washed and in the bag of all the ones that are truly misleading society, to find the truth would crush your world, you can't handle the truth. you ignore the facts and go on the defensive, spouting government propaganda.

before you go off telling others how they should be, you should take a look at your contributions, I don't see you adding anything worth debating....

I will do what I feel like doing and it's none of your dam business, I didn't through the first stone you did and you know what they say about people living in glass houses.

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Tea
one time I'm going to try and point out to you and a few others your child like behavior.
I hope you can have an open mind and see the consequences.

OK what I'm doing is warning people about many corrupt thing going on in our world, if me and millions of others are wrong it's not a big deal.
But I'm not wrong, OK look at it this way.

hear we are back in 1943 the Germans solders and police are gathering people up telling them lies about what they are doing.

I'm there telling them to hide, I tell them about all thje evil plans Hitler has made for them.

OK yeah with me so far?

now hears Tea and a few others telling the people that I'm full of shit, the Germans are not going to hurt you.

get the picture?

Now if I'm wrong people got prepared and went for a nice ride in the countryside with the Nazi's, they come back and ridicule me.

But if your wrong they they don't come back, they loss there lives, because the took your advice and got mislead by you.

witch is the one committing the greater crime. how will you feel if all I say comes to be, how many will you mislead.

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I've seen pagan groups that look a little like this. . .

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Well, I didn't read the whole thing either, but I will just say this: Vaccines scare the HELL out of me! I had the Flu once when I was in my teens and have never had it since (I'm in my 40s now). I never get Flu shots and since my Father died from a Flu shot 7 years ago, neither does the rest of my family.

What vaccines do to your immune system is horrid and in MANY people it triggers the immune system to attack one's own body: Lupus, Hasimoto's Thyroiditis, Juveniel Diabetis, Fibromialgia, Crone's Disease..... the list is very long. Most people don't even know they carry this protein and the Dr.s rarely mention it too their patients before administering these shots!

So mockers beware and read your own sources for sure before getting this vaccine.

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Athena's Echo
Finally a voice of reason, one on the side of truth.
I'm very sorry for your loss, a lesson learned the hard way.

me too, I got the flu when I was young and never got it again, Knock on wood!! hits head!
I never got the shot before, The point I'm making this shot and the nasal mist are like no other, used before and even the old vaccines were deadly.

what monsters would release flu that was created in a bio lab. funded by Rockefeller it's not the killer they hoped for so now they selectively doll out the shots. you notice the ones that be are not getting the same shot they are giving to the general public.

we never had so much hype in history over a shot, they are talking about marshal law, fines, mandatory injections, don't take it your fired and go to camp FEMA, all over a sissy man made flu that's hyped to level six, what's the reasoning?
to give you the shot, they are dying to give us the shot WHY!

Blessings

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Fuck, there is alot easier ways to kill a shit load of people at once, give out free vacations to undesirables to Guam. get a couple million people there, then nuke it. and blame it on iran or korea. And just keep doing it until you run out of islands, countries to blame, or people you don't want. If people are dumb enough to get vaccinated for some fictitious spread of some weak strain of flu... Seriously why go through all this trouble? Just have public executions in the town squares again...

people die of flu every year, this H1 thing, I have known several people who have gotten it, its no worse then any other fucking flu.

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I myself do not want this vaccine for myself or my children nor do i get my children the regular vaccines anymore due to their autism and the regression my oldest experienced when he was vaccinated at age 2. BUT that does not mean that i believe that vaccines are all bad, because they do save lives. Just some ppl and children have certain predispositions that may react negatively to vaccinations. BUT this is just my opinion, not fact. ALSO this is not a reason for me to believe every conspiracy theory out there. Come on ppl, use your brain, do whats right for yourself and your family. WHATEVER that choice may be. I dont know why youre here rowan on this site for pagans if not to contribute something of use. It seems to me youre here to sell your own brand of spin. All i ever see is this conspiracy shit. "Deep fried in paranoid conspiracy" Would you like a side of baked beans to go along with that bullshit your trying to spoon feed us. We can read and we can make up our own minds, stop with the doomsday shit. Thank you and have a nice day.

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maryellen on one hand you say you screwed up your own children from a lessor vaccine and then you have the nerve to condemn me and other good people for warning people about a worse untested vaccine. are you out of your fucking mind my dear
Get a grip!
shouldn't you get informed and also be telling people the vaccine sucks?
oh by the way great parenting, your brain must be defective because of the mercury or some other additive. so I hope I'm not to unkind.
you should read this and help inform people, you don't know what your talking about, until you know the facts SHUT UP!


Ten questions about flu vaccines that doctors and health authorities refuse to answer

Mike Adams
Natural News
October 18, 2009

Vaccine mythology remains rampant in both western medicine and the mainstream media. To hear the vaccination zealots say it, vaccines are backed by “good science,” they’ve been “proven effective” and they’re “perfectly safe.”

You would have the same level of protection from the flu if you brought your own personal voodoo doll to the clinic and had them inject that with the vaccine instead of you.
featured stories Ten questions about flu vaccines that doctors and health authorities refuse to answer





Oh really? Where’s all that good science? As it turns out, there’s isn’t any. Flu vaccines (including swine flu vaccines) are based entirely on a vaccine mythology that assumes all vaccines work and no vaccines can be scientifically questioned. Anyone who dares question the safety or effectiveness of vaccines is immediately branded a danger to public health and marginalized in the scientific community.

Here are ten questions vaccine-pushing doctors and health authorities absolutely refuse to answer:

#1) Where are the randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled studies proving flu vaccines are both safe and effective?

Answer: There aren’t any. (http://www.naturalnews.com/027239_v…)

#2) Where, then, is the so-called “science” backing the idea that flu vaccines work at all?

Answer: Other than “cohort studies,” there isn’t any. And the cohort studies have been thoroughly debunked. Scientifically speaking, there isn’t a scrap of honest evidence showing flu vaccines work at all.

#3) How can methyl mercury (Thimerosal, a preservative used in flu vaccines) be safe for injecting into the human body when mercury is an extremely toxic heavy metal?

Answer: It isn’t safe at all. Methyl mercury is a poison. Along with vaccine adjuvants, it explains why so many people suffer autism or other debilitating neurological side effects after being vaccinated.

#4) Why do reports keep surfacing of children and teens suffering debilitating neurological disorders, brain swelling, seizures and even death following flu vaccines or HPV vaccines?

Answer: Because vaccines are dangerous. The vaccine industry routinely dismisses all such accounts — no matter how many are reported — as “coincidence.”

#5) Why don’t doctors recommend vitamin D for flu protection, especially when vitamin D activates the immune response far better than a vaccine? (http://www.naturalnews.com/027231_V…)

Answer: Because vitamin D can’t be patented and sold as “medicine.” You can make it yourself. If you want more vitamin D, you don’t even need a doctor, and doctors tend not to recommend things that put them out of business.

#6) If human beings need flu vaccines to survive, then how did humans survive through all of Earth’s history?

Answer: Human genetic code is already wired to automatically defend you against invading microorganisms (as long as you have vitamin D). (http://www.naturalnews.com/027231_V…)

#7) If the flu vaccine offers protection against the flu, then why are the people who often catch the flu the very same people who were vaccinated against it?

Answer: Because those most vulnerable to influenza infections are the very same people who have a poor adaptive response to the vaccines and don’t build antibodies. In other words flu vaccines only “work” on people who don’t need them. (And even building antibodies doesn’t equate to real-world protection from the flu, by the way.)

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#8) If the flu vaccine really works, then why was there no huge increase in flu death rates in 2004, the year when flu vaccines were in short supply and vaccination rates dropped by 40%? (http://www.naturalnews.com/027239_v…)

Answer: There was no change in the death rate. You could drop vaccination rates to zero percent and you’d still see no change in the number of people dying from the flu. That’s because flu vaccines simply don’t work.

#9) How can flu vaccines reduce mortality by 50% (as is claimed) when only about 10% of winter deaths are related to the flu in the first place?

They can’t. The 50% statistic is an example of quack medical marketing. If I have a room full of 100 people, then I take the 50 healthiest people and hand them a candy bar, I can’t then scientifically claim that “candy bars make people healthy.” That’s essentially the same logic behind the “50% reduction in mortality” claim of flu vaccines. (http://www.naturalnews.com/027239_v…).

#10) If flu vaccines work so well, then why are drug makers and health authorities so reluctant to subject them to scientific scrutiny with randomized, placebo-controlled studies?

Answer: Although they claim such studies would be “unethical,” what’s far more unethical is to keep injecting hundreds of millions of people every year with useless, harmful vaccines that aren’t backed by a shred of honest evidence.

Vaccine voodoo?

The vaccine industry is about making money, not actually offering immune protection against the flu. Whether people get the flu or not is irrelevant to the bottom-line profits of the drug companies. What matters most is that people continue to take the flu shots, and making that happen depends entirely on pushing the vaccine mythology that infects the minds of doctors and health authorities today.

There was a time when all “good” doctors believed in bloodletting. Sickness was caused by evil spirits, they thought, and releasing pints of blood from the patient would clear the evil spirits and accelerate healing. Any doctor who questioned the science behind bloodletting was called a “denier.” All the “good” doctors said, “We know bloodletting works, so we don’t need science to back it up.”

Today, you hear the exact same thing about vaccines. “We know they work,” doctors claim, “so we don’t need any real science to back it up.” Anyone who questions the safety of flu vaccines (or H1N1 vaccines) is branded a “denier.” Anyone who asks for solid scientific evidence supporting the efficacy of vaccines is called a troublemaker. They don’t need any evidence. They already know vaccines work.

With that being the case, why bother calling it medicine at all? Why not just call it VOODOO? Why not accompany vaccines with the wave of a magic wand and some shamanic chanting? Maybe doctors should tell their patients to cross their fingers before being injected with a vaccine because “that makes it work better.”

Seriously. Everything that doctors accuse “quacks” of doing with homeopathy, or herbs, or energy medicine is now being done by the doctors themselves when it comes to vaccines. They are following the exact same “quackery” they accuse other of pursuing.

This brings me to an important observation about modern medicine: MY quackery is okay, but YOUR quackery isn’t!

That’s the attitude of vaccine-pushing doctors and health authorities. As long as the quackery is widely agreed upon by the medical masses, then to heck with actual scientific evidence.

Quackery only needs good company, not good science, to be accepted as true.

Why natural medicine is inherently safer

Of course, these vaccine devotees might say, well, you don’t have any good evidence to support your anti-viral herbs, or your medicinal teas, or your vitamin D nutrition either. But in saying that, they miss the whole point: Foods, herbs and nutrition are all natural, biocompatible healing elements that have been part of the human experience for as long as humans have roamed this planet. A chemical injection with a sharp needle that pierces the skin, on the other hand, is extremely interventionist. It’s unnatural and in many ways quite radical. As such, it demands a higher burden of scientific proof than something that human beings have evolved with over time.

Foods, herbs and natural medicines have been around for millions of years. Vaccines have existed for less than a hundred years, and routine season flu vaccinations have really only been pushed hard for less than twenty years. They have no track record of success. They aren’t natural, they aren’t compatible with human biology, and they contain extremely toxic substances that clearly do not belong in the human body.

Given such extremes, the burden of proof for both safety and efficacy of vaccines falls onto those who would advocate them. And yet, to this day, no such proof has been offered… or is even pursued. There isn’t even a plan in place to someday find out if flu vaccines really work. The whole plan is to just pursue “business as usual” and keep injecting people whether it really works or not.

Vaccine needles would be far more honest if they were shaped like question marks.

Flu vaccines are the voodoo of modern medicine.

Seriously. You would have the same level of protection from the flu if you brought your own personal voodoo doll to the clinic and had them inject that with the vaccine instead of you!

That’s an interesting idea, actually. We could really reduce national health care costs if we just administered western medicines to our voodoo dolls instead of our actual bodies. Got cancer? Just poison your voodoo doll with chemotherapy. Side effects are almost non-existent. Need heart bypass surgery? Just have them operate on the doll (it’s far less complicated). Want some protection from the winter flu? Just vaccinate the doll. It’s quick and painless.

The results would be no worse than what people are experiencing right now. In fact, in most cases they might actually be better.

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