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I wanted to share a recent experience I am going through right now on-line that might be sympathetic just how dumb some of this situation is turning to be. It always seem to end up being that no matter how I try as someone that is a christo pagan like myself is going to have a hard time with conversing with people and actually finding like minded people on-line is more like asking to voluntarily have a root canal.
I am more just really proud of myself in how I am representing myself in these situations and how I am standing up for myself but being mature, and polite in the ways that I do it. lol which is more so one of the reason I wanted to show this off.

christo pagan bisexual, poly girl

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posted 1 day ago (Friday, August 17)
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the last four years my life has gone on a very twisted up and down journey I found that not only am I a bisexual women but I am also polyamous, recently less then a year ago I found that I was also.

Wiccan well that I felt more drawn to wicca, but I have been a christian for so long in my life I can’t just take that way from me and I don’t ever wish to. The life lessons that Jesus has brought into my life, but I know I am different from other christians I don’t believe the same way as others do but I do believe.

All I want is to find people that will like and welcome me into their lives, and not judge me thereis enough negativity in the world today.

I don’t think i am going to hell simply cause I am a witch and I am little different. And I have been told as such to my face in the middle of public malls no less.

But I hope to find a place of acceptance and kindness here!


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We are not here to judge you but of course it will never be as simple as let us all agree to disagree and just sing cumbya.

God would not have given us the Bible and spoken against things like worshiping false gods, entertaining random spirits, having non monogamous relationships or sleeping with people of our same gender if there would be no human/spiritual temptation to do so.

When I ask myself what I want to do or be bi and poly sound appealing. Why not? Well because when I read scripture I hear the voice of God saying He has a different plan for my life and the life of everyone else in society. I honestly do not understand why His perfect will for my life included me being single until now almost 40.

That is a whole life time. I would rather be a widow like Ruth than going on being an spinster before I get to experience the joy of a right heterosexual union the way it was intended for my life.

Still sex is a picture of the spiritual relationship we have with God. It takes the two, a man the giver and the woman the receiver plus the potential of procreation under the right circumstances and the commitment of the faithfulness to catch the glimpse of how we are to be intimately connected to Him.

That does not happen in same same connections. As Katy Perry would say “I kissed a girl and I liked it…” just as much as I enjoyed kissing men. It was just out of order and not in the timing of God. I hurt and distracted people who God was trying to reach and minister to in other ways through my life.

The eternal salvation that Christ alone offers is worth more than the pleasures and distractions of our flesh no matter how they may present as the right thing to do now.

You are young and we are female it seems easier for women to want to experiment with same orientation than men or it did when I was growing up. I do not know what influences you were raised with or how long you have been exposed to scripture.

What I can tell you is sometimes the way to go is to read the Word of God and let it inform the things you say over yourself rather than depending on the feelings, emotions, cravings or convictions that seem to come naturally to our bodies.

The walk along the straight and narrow is not supposed to be easy breezy. It is supposed to require us to depend on the Holy Spirit through faith and understanding of the Word.

When did you give your heart to Christ? What is your favorite book or story in the Bible? Is anyone in your family involved in these alternative practices? Are there divorces and abortions or addictions and other abuses in your family?

I think the more families in our modern society get away from looking the way God meant with monogamous marriages, Christian faith and righteous living the more the generations will be faced with the idea of wanting to identify as something other than what they can find for their lives in scripture.

What God established in Genesis was a picture for humanity for all time. One man one woman marriage as the only place for sex and worship, honor and respect for only the Lord in the spiritual sense. The sacrifices of the Old Testament were a picture foretelling that a painful sacrifice accompanies all the sin that we commit and eventually Jesus Himself would come to earth to suffer and die for us, to be raised and redeem humanity back to the Trinity.

No other religious practice promises or conveys that the God who created us love us and has provided for our eternal souls. How then can we let ourselves be pulled into multiple practices that are specifically spoken against?

What scriptures come to mind as you read this message? What does the Holy Spirit register with? If Jesus appeared to you what would He minister to in your life that would draw you into Him alone for the rest of your natural life? What do you need to lay down to pick up your cross and follow?

 
posted about 10 hours ago
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While I know you make some valid points (which I’m not disputing) I think she’s aware of all that. As much as I disagree with her life choices, they are hers and hers alone, a gift of free will from God himself. She’s choosing how to use them--she’s not asking us for direction, she’s asking us for love.
She’s saying “I know I don’t fit the picture, but everyone is pointing a finger at me and making me feel awful when I just want to be seen for myself.”
Jesus Christ loves ALL sinners. ME, you, her. I think she’s looking for someone to talk to more than she is someone to “lead” her. And I don’t mean that offensively, but guard your heart from judging!


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posted about 9 hours ago, edited about 9 hours ago
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I am not judging anyone. It is still an open conversation. At the same time we cannot assume what people know.

More and more I find people use words and terms but aren’t fully aware of what they are talking about.

I am also just pulling out what the Word says so it is clear where I am coming from.

I read a blog post recently on the marriage issue. The poster talked all about how the Christian religious right was all wrong because Jesus was all about love and He rebuked the religious leaders of His day.

I replied to the person who had shared the blog not completely clear if she was the author or just a fan. I mentioned that Jesus was the Word in flesh and the plan of human life started in Genesis as laid out in the garden when God created Adam & Eve.

She said to me “I have never read the Bible so I really have no idea what is in it.”

Yet she was throwing out “facts about Christ” or agreeing with ideas of who He is and what He stood for.

The more I talk to people the more I learn to vet the facts before just settling with what they tell me. I asked some serious questions. The answers to which usually also shed light on what a person is dealing with. I also revealed that I have some of the same struggles in terms of what comes naturally to me.

So I am not just some heterosexual uber Christian who grew up in the church with no idea of what really goes on in the world. I am far from judgy. At the same time I believe in right and wrong. I believe in the Bible and the things it clearly says as well as some things that are not so clear.

I do not believe I was allowed to be exposed to what I was but rescued by Christ to sit back and be silent when the issues I am familiar with pop up. I have some friends who used to be drug and alcohol addicts doing Celebrate Recovery (sort of a Christian AA) and asking me to come for the fellowship.

Addictions of substance where never my thing and I decline all the time.

Abortion and sexual sin yeah I have experience in these areas. It is where I feel free and anointed to speak life to those lost in darkness even when they feel free.

 
posted about 7 hours ago
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:) I wasn’t trying to offend you, so I hope I haven’t done so


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posted 32 minutes ago, edited 8 minutes ago
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I can certainly see the points all of you make and I can respectfully hear what you have t0 say on it. But I am a women that does follow a pagan path as well as Christian one.

I practice bible study and pray as well as being a witch. Being what I am is not an easy road to be on, I am judged even by other pagans….but I have finally found a place in my life,That I feel spiritually at peace with myself and the world around me, I do believe in Jesus and love him in my heart now and forever. But I do not agree with all things that the church teaches, I do not believe loving more then one person or loving a women is wrong.

it says in your introduction to this group, that if you do not feel you fit the mold of the a typical Christian this is a place that is welcome to you. This is why I came here, and apologize if I ruffle the feathers of members here by being truthful to who I am and the way I do things. But I would rather be honest of who I am as a person then lie about it.

I have always believed that faith and spirituality are something that should be personal and mean something to the people that practice it otherwise it serves no purpose other then to brain wash people into doing what the religion itself wants, not what you want or that makes you feel better about yourself as a whole.

I mean what I say in no ill manor but has it ever occurred to anyone that the bible is a book that was written by other human beings? human beings that if we follow the sher basics of what it says tells us that all human being are with sin? if that is the case and its been proven over literally hundreds of years that the bible has been edited down from its original contexts also.
Not to mention the fact that in some respects with some Christian people we say simply accept Jesus into your life as your savior and you shall be forgiven and believe in him. If this is truly the case why do Christians as whole always wish to pick at others that are Christian (example Catholics vs baptists or protestants) or why is that the Catholic church has entirely different set of three whole books, that the king James bible does not have at all?
isn’t there parts of the old testament that even make mention of having more then one wife?

and maybe my knowledge on theology is not as good as some others but most of the verses that are used to fight against homosexuality being so called wrong. Seem to come from Leviticus, the same book which makes mention of stoning your neighbors wife or just murdering in pure hate if she is doing anything that a community might find wrong is ok? or that eating shell fish is a sin…..so when you eat at red lobster thats a sin too.

I am not trying to make myself out to be any better or worse then anyone else. I have faults in my life I have sins, but really everyone does, and just because I am different does not make me a bad person or at least thats what i want to believe.

Again I deeply apologize if I am offend anyone here, but I like the path I am on I like where I am in my life as a pagan and as a deep, deep lover of Jesus. I just prefer to live my life open mindedly and expose myself to the world rather then shut myself off from it.

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Comment by Sarah on August 18, 2012 at 5:05am

my last statment since I can't read it well says this

I can certainly see the points all of you make and I can respectfully hear what you have t0 say on it. But I am a women that does follow a pagan path as well as Christian one.

I practice bible study and pray as well as being a witch. Being what I am is not an easy road to be on, I am judged even by other pagans….but I have finally found a place in my life,That I feel spiritually at peace with myself and the world around me, I do believe in Jesus and love him in my heart now and forever. But I do not agree with all things that the church teaches, I do not believe loving more then one person or loving a women is wrong.

it says in your introduction to this group, that if you do not feel you fit the mold of the a typical Christian this is a place that is welcome to you. This is why I came here, and apologize if I ruffle the feathers of members here by being truthful to who I am and the way I do things. But I would rather be honest of who I am as a person then lie about it.

I have always believed that faith and spirituality are something that should be personal and mean something to the people that practice it otherwise it serves no purpose other then to brain wash people into doing what the religion itself wants, not what you want or that makes you feel better about yourself as a whole.

I mean what I say in no ill manor but has it ever occurred to anyone that the bible is a book that was written by other human beings? human beings that if we follow the sher basics of what it says tells us that all human being are with sin? if that is the case and its been proven over literally hundreds of years that the bible has been edited down from its original contexts also.
Not to mention the fact that in some respects with some Christian people we say simply accept Jesus into your life as your savior and you shall be forgiven and believe in him. If this is truly the case why do Christians as whole always wish to pick at others that are Christian (example Catholics vs baptists or protestants) or why is that the Catholic church has entirely different set of three whole books, that the king James bible does not have at all?
isn’t there parts of the old testament that even make mention of having more then one wife?

and maybe my knowledge on theology is not as good as some others but most of the verses that are used to fight against homosexuality being so called wrong. Seem to come from Leviticus, the same book which makes mention of stoning your neighbors wife or just murdering in pure hate if she is doing anything that a community might find wrong is ok? or that eating shell fish is a sin…..so when you eat at red lobster thats a sin too.

I am not trying to make myself out to be any better or worse then anyone else. I have faults in my life I have sins, but really everyone does, and just because I am different does not make me a bad person or at least thats what i want to believe.

Again I deeply apologize if I am offend anyone here, but I like the path I am on I like where I am in my life as a pagan and as a deep, deep lover of Jesus. I just prefer to live my life open mindedly and expose myself to the world rather then shut myself off from it.

just in case it hard to read to others also

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