spiritual vs mundane

Alright, this is a bit of a rant. I do not know how many post there are from biased posters (for both spiritual and mundane) Now, I am not saying I know it all or have all the answers, but I Do have (Like EVERYONE else on this site) access to google and other search engines. More often than not people are going by what they learned growing up and haven't bothered to or even thought of looking farther into it.

I can not count the amount of posts that turn sour because someone goes on and states about demon possession (epecially lately...) or about how founded the paradigm of their religion they were raised in effects their view of things.

When it comes to things like possessions, ghosts, fae, demons, etc, people should try to find a mundane source BEFORE trying to find a spiritual source. More often than not, the possessions we hear about on the boards are being debunked with some simple psychology (understanding why the average person would react in x mannor) and then the OP taking offense to being told that the way they think is 'too spiritual' or that they are 'fluffy' or people go on and toy with them, when they ask for certain things (one even claimed to be good at bullshitting in a reply to their own post, after giving what seemed to some like legitimate advice...depending on the persons path.

That brings me to another point. When giving 'advice', my general method is to figure out the persons views first, then give advice accordingly...or send them to someone who is actually a bit of a mogul in their field. (ie someone more experienced in their path) Or I ask them as many questions as I can think of to gain a better insight to their situation. Occassionally I will offer my opinion and relate it to my own experience to see if it helps..... but the mockery of spiritual paths, and the resistance to the mundane is doing no one any favors, but causing a divide of an 'us vs them' almost ritual in far too many threads.

For those who think they have it figured out, guide, don't belittle.... for those who want to learn, be prepared to question all you think you know, and be ready to let go of some ideas that no longer work with all your information.

Hope all of you can learn to get along more, and take things less personal when being asked to question things... (took me a little, but it is all a part of the learning curve...good luck)

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Comment by Maris Hellfaerie (Maire) on September 6, 2012 at 12:00pm: I think the deductive approach is the best thing, if one is at the beginning of finding an answer. Also I think that just because something has mundane reasons, does not make it less worth of weight, as a problem. So I don't think it is disrespectful to motivate the person to consider a few things before speculating around about which fairies exactly having stolen their beer (example).

Comment by Ms.Pouncer-Curiousier&Curiousier on September 6, 2012 at 4:47pm: why it'd be the beer faries of course ;) lol

I agree that mundane reasons is not to say it is any less of a problem, but it does give lead to more plausable solutions if you look for the mundane FIRST.... if the mundane approach is not giving answers or results, THEN look for spiritual reasoning...

I have to say that when I first started on here I found certain approaches to be undesireable, but also noted that there was something to be learned. Some people are comparable to

Comment by Ms.Pouncer-Curiousier&Curiousier on September 6, 2012 at 4:49pm: (sorry) Some people are comparable to tarot decks for the advanced..... they contain a great amount of information, but are misunderstood by many what their true intent of their message is, until you familiarize with them ;)

Comment by Maris Hellfaerie (Maire) on September 6, 2012 at 6:08pm: I'd agree with all that.

Comment by Ms.Pouncer-Curiousier&Curiousier on September 7, 2012 at 3:16am: There is also something to be said about the overlaps of what is thought to be a sign, and what is thought to be something more natural.

My personal guess would be that those thinking they were effected by a demon more than likely created their own egrogore and in a way, 'their thoughts haunt them'........

Comment by Kixs on September 7, 2012 at 8:34pm: I totally agree with you on this Ms. Pouncer. I find myself avoiding most "I have a demon problem" threads because of this very issue.

Being who I am so openly for some many years, folks in this area contact me often with their "demon problems". 99.99% of the time it is people problems. So the family joke is those damn gremilins are at it again, such and such called and wants to talk to ya about such and such. Something goes missing in the house we jokingly blame the gremlins.

Boy do I have some stories...lol. Had one lady actually argue with me because everytime she stood next to her dryer her hair would feel as if it was standing on edge, it had to be a demon. I suggeted dryer sheets, boy did that piss her off...lol. But really, you called me because of static electric problems around your dryer?lol.

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