Veils

Greetings Friends,
have you ever wondered why the secret teachings are so Cryptic??

and So Difficult to understand....
the TRUTH is that When ONE Passes Through the Veils and Deeper into The REALITY behind the Mirror illusion..
that ALL these Things Unravel themselves and Become as Easy to SEE and to Understand ..that It appears Everywhere!....

BUT until ONE can SEE everywhere ONE cannot SEE...

darn
Its Impossible to describe it until you Experience IT...
and Only BY the Other Adepts Recognising Because THEY also Experienced it..

it is impossible to believe..

If you have an interest I can Try to explain further..
for IT is the greatest KEY to fully understand..

how should I phrase it.....
The Holy Grail
san Graal,

Cannot BE FOUND
until YOU forget YOUR SELF.....

but When ONE is ONE and NOT ONE in ONE......
the I and I

unite to become ONE..
and Then are the Doors of the Kingdom Flung Open...
and ONE becomes a Guardian........

I am Sorry.......perhaps most of you have not met me before..and Do not Understand .....I am Here to Help..
and To Heal!

has anyone read Fougou???? by Jo May??

there is VERY important TRUTH in that book!

Best Wishes...
Daniel Nautonnier,
Frater VVV
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Permalink Reply by Celticlass on April 21, 2008 at 12:00pm: Meerrymeet Daniel
Thanks for the thoughts. I believe I understand what you are saying. For myself,in the Celtic path,ALL things are a continuation of the circle,all the time,never ending,all intertwined and always changing as we go. We try to become one with Spirit in all things,both on this side and the other,aye? It is a blessing when we do or come close! MP Heather.Celtic Earth Witch in Va; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Hieros on April 21, 2008 at 12:23pm: Hi Daniel!
I wanted to post this for everyone to ponder as a supplement to your thoughts in the words of Shakespeare, from Hamlet...

"To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despised love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover'd country from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action. - Soft you now!
The fair Ophelia! Nymph, in thy orisons
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Permalink Reply by Nautonnier on April 22, 2008 at 4:17am: EXACTLY!!!!!!!!
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Permalink Reply by Khamren on April 21, 2008 at 1:31pm: Daniel, I would love to hear more. I've been practicing with meditations and taking a Shaman class, and I understand becoming ONE with EVERYTHING. I haven't experienced it at the level you're talking about but I'm trying. I have moments and glimpses... forgetting myself and just being, letting go of the ego/voice and just feeling the connected oneness... but I think there is a moment where you fully feel and see it.. a major moment, yes?; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Peter (Stone Warlock) on April 21, 2008 at 3:07pm: Wow! Hieros. From memory? No matter - beautiful all the same.
(Reminds me of the old days. Me and old William would sit.........). Yea - RIGHT!
Seriously though, Shakespeare knew his way around words.

Daniel, I have not yet read Fougou, but now I will. Thank you Brother.

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Permalink Reply by Nautonnier on April 22, 2008 at 4:17am: Yes....there IS a Major MOMENT!!!!; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by d'Arqstar on April 22, 2008 at 11:54pm: Ah, but when one passes through the veils one sees that there ARE indeed NO veils but those we "create" in our minds and in our hearts. All human constructs dissolve and all possibilities ARE! All impossibilities ARE! And all boundaries disappear, all lines merge, all details blend.
(all my words just leaked out onto my keyboard! Oops! LOL! THAT'S gonna be a mess to clean up!)
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Permalink Reply by Lion Spider on April 23, 2008 at 7:41pm: People find it hard to take these lessons in this way, I believe, because for generations we have been told how to think be it at school, in the home or the workplace. Trying to get children to think for themselves and actually question is very hard in Australia. Some of the rubbish my eldest comes home with that is not factual but left wing ideological is pathetic and an abuse of trust placed on the education system.

It is for us, their parents/carers to show them how to question, how to ponder, how to explore, how to discuss, how to respectfully offer a difference of opinion. When we can do this, we will start to walk a life where we aren't so shy, scared, unable to look within ourselves and ask those questions and challenge them.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by d'Arqstar on April 24, 2008 at 11:58pm: You know? I've been recently studying and have come upon some concepts that I'd never really considered much. MAINLY that what we consider "veils" or the illusions of the mundane might be constructs of protection for those who simply aren't "mature" enough to understand and accept the "truth" or being able to bear being alive without them. That those teachings that seem "cryptic" at first aren't really so difficult to understand for those perhaps "brave" enough or strong enough in their seekings to unravel them. For it seems to uncover these things one must step outside the "mundane" and let go of pre-conceived notions and learned responses. Many study the arcane texts and such and KNOW what they say, but are unwilling to let go of their mental constructs to fully understand and "live" the truths behind them...or something like that! LOL! This was MUCH clearer in my mind before I started trying to write this! LOL!
I'm going to leave it...in hopes someone understands what I've tried to offer. Its late and I'm growing weary, my words are becoming muddled..or maybe that's just my mind! LOL!
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Permalink Reply by La Ra_Fwa on May 13, 2008 at 12:12pm: Aloha Daniel!!

I visited this thread some days ago, seeking clues ect.. I very much enjoyed all the INsights & discussions..

So.......I googled - God in reference to Fougou, & lo there you were yet again, lol, in fact this very thread,
" The Viels, has anyone read Fougou???? by Jo May??
there is Very important Truth in that book!

INteresting to note fougou is representative of a cave like structure!!

Cyber space hey? does make you wonder what else gets INocently squandered, yet at the same time We all deserve to Be Enlightened.. But to have it fall Into your lap seems too easy for the lazy!! It does make me wonder just the same..

I do hope I Am able to find a copy soon, although I Am cluelss as to where to start, I will only consider I may be One of the lazy Ones, lol, if a copy manifests under my couch!!

Journey Forth IN love & discovery, LaRa..; ▶ Reply to This