Is it right to allow actual Nazis onto this site?

Should full-blown Nazis be allowed on this site? I'm usually one for free speech, but when do we draw the line? I know a lot of us have no love for Christianity and Judaism (being Pagan it's easy to pick faults about them), but when should we stop disliking and start hating and favouring holocaustic methods? I mention no names, but I came across a very questionable new member who has not tried to hide in his description about himself that he fights all forms of Judaism or Christianity to "protect the Aryan race", and mentions his belief that Jews and Christians have taken over the world!??! I'm all for free speech, but this man condones the ideals of a sect of murderers and war criminals who once called themselves the "Aryan race", who over half the world stood up to fight. Almost every nation sacrificed many lives to stop this way of thinking because of its dangerous and brutal intolerance of anyone coloured, foreign, religious, disabled, gay, communist or different in any way! Yes, Hitler was a Pagan. Hitler was a vegetarian too, but you don't see the veggies using that as an excuse to protect the Aryan race. Maybe this new member should keep his anti-semitic views to himself. But what do other people think?

Tags: antisemitic, aryan, fascism, fascist, nazi

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Permalink Reply by Pavlor on June 21, 2008 at 1:51am: the day I "wake up" to Nazi "values" is the day I lock myself in a bunker and shoot myself in the head.

I wasn't talking about waking up to Nazi values. You are twisting my words to suit your own beliefs; yet another trait behind fundamentalist thinking! You are proving my point with your own words, OU8DCAKE *lol*

It seems you just believe in what you want to believe regardless of whatever information is put in front of you.

Permalink Reply by OU8DCAKE on June 22, 2008 at 8:53am: aah it's you who had to make a twist to realize that I'm telling you just how I feel, and when it comes to hate groups based on religion nosing their way into politicks, you are correct, I have no interest in "waking up" to them.

I cannot be fundamentalist since I follow no doctrine.

shooting my self in the head was an example of cognitive dissonance.

Permalink Reply by Pavlor on June 22, 2008 at 9:06am: I cannot be fundamentalist since I follow no doctrine.

You would think, wouldn't you? *lol*

Check out non-theistic fundamentalism.

Permalink Reply by Lion Spider on June 16, 2008 at 7:10am: I certainly support freedom of speech. If we do gag people because of a political point of view, then we better ban all of them or this forum will be nothing but a political forum with a massive bias. I certainly would not stay should such things happen.

I must also say that if any member of this forum is encouraging violence, then they should be dealt with by the owner/moderators.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Faol Sith on June 20, 2008 at 12:52am: I thought Hitler was a Catholic, (as far as I know the SS all had to be Christians/Catholics as well)...who dabbled in the occult....everything I have ever read about him said he was a Catholic. For some reason the Neo-Nazi's in the US decided all of a sudden that they where Heathens, because Hitler tried to incorporate some of the Asatru belief system in to the National Socialist Party.
We didn't really get to cover it to much in Anthropology this semester. However "race" is basically a social concept in most aspects. However there are two theories that are running neck to neck about the modern human origins, if what scientists are discovering is correct it will blow everyone's belief of what they are out of the water. Some people may be walking around with Neanderthal DNA and those people would have Paleolithic Neanderthal ancestry ( which was from Northern Europe) some are saying this may account for aggressive traits. Neanderthals may have been bred in to the Homo Sapiens who migrated to that area, in essence 'breeding out' the species.
This isn't exactly my bag though so if you want more info I may be able to get some for you from my professor. This is more Bio-Anthropology or Paleo-Anthropology.

Damn I completely got off the point didn't I.....sorry Anthropology major....

but check this out anyway....

https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/index.html

this is a blog on the topic that i found interesting:
http://survivalofthesickestthebook.com/blog/?p=52

if your a ginger you may have a Neanderthal ancestor: ( don't knock it i have some red in my hair):
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/1675/dna-says-neanderthals-were-...

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2006/08/22/neanderthals_hum.html

and this is " The Race Project" website.

http://www.understandingrace.org/home.html

Most of the Pagan community I've met have been pretty smart so its kind of a disappointment that someone would think that way. I know it happens though.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Celticlass on June 20, 2008 at 6:39am: I always thought he was too! A good Catholic boy with the blessings of the Pope and the church!; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Faol Sith on June 20, 2008 at 3:52pm: Yes the Catholic Church and the Pope did back him up in the beginning that was why there was such a big 'to do' about the new Pope because he at one time was part of one of the younger National Socialist Party groups. I can't remember which one, my Dad would be the one with the information on that bit.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by SIN on June 20, 2008 at 4:23pm: Hence all the Nazi propaganda about several German popes.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Pavlor on June 20, 2008 at 6:42am: Most of the Pagan community I've met have been pretty smart so its kind of a disappointment that someone would think that way. I know it happens though.

Which comment(s) are you referring to here, Faol Sith?; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Faol Sith on June 20, 2008 at 3:42pm: That people are still deluded by the whole social concept of ''race''....race has nothing to do with the color of your skin.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Pavlor on June 21, 2008 at 2:59am: Ah okay. Yes, I agree: race is a social construct like many other phenotypical observations, and serve as a tool for socio-political agendas, sadly. Also, I believe many people mix up race and ethnicity, although both are rather arbitrary terms which are often difficult to define, even by seasoned ethnographers. Furthermore, ethnic identification is culture-specific; the way Americans define ethnicity is different to the way, let's say the Brits define it. I was just in the group Northern Euro-Shamanic Tradition looking at this and discussing cultural viewpoints regarding the placement of ethnicity. Big problems arise...; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Faol Sith on June 20, 2008 at 3:48pm: It was to the original comment...then i went off on an Anthropology rant.... X^)

basically it means that the Northern Europeans defiantly have genetics that originated in Africa...as well as Neanderthal DNA. I just think that people who think as a ''race'' that they are ''superior'' need to keep up with DNA research.; ▶ Reply to This