The Gospel that has risen the greatest challenge to the Vatican - Christian Gospel or Pagan Gospel?

Posted by Seachain Aroon on July 12, 2008 at 12:13pm in History and Research

As it seems to be a lot of controversy about the whole "Christian vs. Pagan", "Christian Witch", "Christians and Satanists" etc lately on this board, I propose a subject that is quite related.

In 1923, Edmund Bordeaux Szekely, while studying the archives of the Vatican, has discovered some original Aramaic texts that he started to translate. They were published as the series "Essene Gospels of Peace".

He claimed that those ancient texts were the original Gospel of Jesus himself. The Vatican denied the mere existence of those texts. There were many who have jumped to the task of demonstrating what a big fraud Szekely was.

This is the text of the Essene Gospel. Read carefully. Then I would really like to know what you think.

http://reluctant-messenger.com/essene/gospel_of_peace.htm

Tags: christian, literature, pagan

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Permalink Reply by Marc on July 13, 2008 at 10:57pm: Why is it so important for Pagans to claim Jesus as one of their own?

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Permalink Reply by d'Arqstar on July 14, 2008 at 12:34am: I don't know that's it's of any importance for Pagans to claim Jesus as one of (ahem!) OURS...more the point is that OTHERS took HIS teachings and filtered them then used them for their own agendas. They put a price tag on what he taught. (i.e. submission to the political and economic power of the Church) He would have had "God loving" people...THEY have "God fearing" people. I see a considerable difference here. But, that's just me and MY interpretation. Eveyone's entitled to their own!
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Permalink Reply by William on July 14, 2008 at 9:01am: And that is where my comment above is coming from.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by William on July 14, 2008 at 9:49am: ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Seachain Aroon on July 14, 2008 at 7:24am: Marc, it's not about claiming Jesus as a pagan.

It is more about the huge rift between pagans and Christians, about the endless arguments between fundies of both sides (of course we have our fundies), about opening our eyes that, maybe, there is more to it that meets the eye.

And that maybe we can learn something from there too. And that horse-blinders might be good for horses, but they don't do any good when people wear them.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by William on July 14, 2008 at 8:59am: No doubt! Some of us don't even believe he ever existed; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Peter (Stone Warlock) on July 14, 2008 at 12:53pm: Marc, the Christian Church relies almost entirely on the false words of their non-existent Christ in order to justify their enslavement of the masses. Christian `rule' over the past 1500 years has seen the most bloody terrorism in the history of the human race. Yes, I know that the Pagan dominance before that time was also not a peaceful one, but here the operative word is "was". A new form of peaceful Pagan is struggling for survival. This survival is being threatened by the Christian Church, among others. The Christians must be stopped. By proving their religion, not only false, but dangerous, will go a long way to the realization of peace.

Besides, on a personal note, there is nothing that I would like more than to see the total destruction of the Christian Church.

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Permalink Reply by Marc on July 14, 2008 at 3:54pm: How are modern Pagans being threatened by the Christians? It just seems really strange to me that on a website devoted to paganism in general a significant minority of the conversations revolve around Christian beliefs. It reminds me of that little pagan clubhouse I went to in Dallas where the subject of Baptists seemed to surface an awful lot.

I think you have a rather myopic view of Christianity as it relates to history. Quite frankly I don't think modern Paganism will survive as a religion -at least not a large scale religion- unless it becomes a more organized religion.

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Permalink Reply by Seachain Aroon on July 14, 2008 at 4:50pm: Well, Peter, I don't stand with you on this one.
The intention I had in putting this up was not to call for the "destruction" of anything. It was for trying to make people understand that if you go to the heart of it, ALL religions practically the same, and the core of the Christian tenets may actually lie somewhere else, not where the people have put and twisted them.

The writing I've put up for discussion is the "Essene Gospel of PEACE".

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Permalink Reply by Sabrina The Ink Witch on July 14, 2008 at 9:01am: Very interesting topic, Seachain. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I've read some of this article, I'll have to read more.
I will admit, I tend to have difficulty swallowing stories that surround missing documents, but then history IS full of such, is it not? *sigh*.

But I do intend to follow up with this, Seachain. Again thank you for bringing this to our attention. Most fascinating. We'll see where this takes us.........

cheers
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Permalink Reply by David Darkfire on July 14, 2008 at 1:01pm: The Vatican has been holding secrets for centuries. There is much that people just don't know, that has been closely guarded at beyond extreme levels. Should the truth come out, the world couldn't handle the truth.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Peter (Stone Warlock) on July 14, 2008 at 1:07pm: Hi David. With all respect, I must disagree with you. The world would be able to handle the truth - the Christian Church would not survive the truth. THAT is why it is hidden.; ▶ Reply to This