Are people really that desperate for lineage that they will just make this shit up? It doesn't matter who you were trained by. For all that the rest of us know that person is a complete idiot. Lineage is in the bloodlines. Unless you were adopted or born into a family with a trad, you can't claim lineage. That is like me saying I am a martial artist who knows what they are doing because I was trained by Chuck Norris. BTW I wasn't really, that's just an example. The spirituality is what matters. You trace a lineage as far back as you want, but in the end only the Gods make the witches. Is there a bond(s) that can be formed spiritually by teacher/student? Yes. But that doesn't entitle you to shit. Claiming a 'trained' lineage is not only dumb but it is code for 'I'm riding on my teacher's coattails to make myself feel important.' I can't believe people take this shit seriously.